From: Martin S Taylor on
Jaimie Vandenbergh wrote
>> Ah. All the websites say don't put 3.1.3 on your device else you can't
>> jailbreak it. So perhaps if you _start_ from 3.1.<3 you're okay.
>
> If you first save your SHSH hashes with Cydia, and use the current
> PwnageTools to update, then you're fine.

Am I correct in that there's no problem with iPhone 2 or 3G, it's only 3GS
which needs its SHSH and ECID backing up?

> More details from the source, http://blog.iphone-dev.org/ - there's no
> point believing any other websites about it except as additional
> information to these guys postings.

But are any of these websites written in English? I mean English as written
and understood by a bloke over 50?

It seems to me that the iphone-dev guys know a hell of a lot, but assume the
reader does too, and any "clarification" is written in street-speak on a
bulletin-board by teenagers whose knowledge of clear writing is hampered in
that they may once have seen a punctuation mark in a museum, or have possibly
heard one described, ditto correct spelling etc etc <dissolves into choleric
rant>

MST

From: Jaimie Vandenbergh on
On Mon, 22 Feb 2010 10:03:49 GMT, Martin S Taylor
<mst(a)hRyEpMnOoVtEiTsHm.cIo.uSk> wrote:

>Jaimie Vandenbergh wrote
>>> Ah. All the websites say don't put 3.1.3 on your device else you can't
>>> jailbreak it. So perhaps if you _start_ from 3.1.<3 you're okay.
>>
>> If you first save your SHSH hashes with Cydia, and use the current
>> PwnageTools to update, then you're fine.
>
>Am I correct in that there's no problem with iPhone 2 or 3G, it's only 3GS
>which needs its SHSH and ECID backing up?

I am almost entirely sure this is the case - except I've never
concentrated on 3G needs, since I never had one. Definitely the 2G is
wide open without needing those keys stored.

>> More details from the source, http://blog.iphone-dev.org/ - there's no
>> point believing any other websites about it except as additional
>> information to these guys postings.
>
>But are any of these websites written in English? I mean English as written
>and understood by a bloke over 50?

I ws going to go into a similar rant (or at least comment that as with
all cracking groups, documentation is *very* poor), but then I read
the "Pre-game show" post about 3.1.3 and thought "Actually, that's
fine, and covers all cases clearly". But I've been jailbreaking since
a few months after the 2G came out, and I'm 37...

Go to iclarified.com for more newbie friendly hints - the 3.1.3
PwnageTool method/recipe is identical to earlier 3.x versions.

But don't trust any site that says "This won't work" if iphone-dev.org
says it will (or vice versa), is what I mean.

Cheers - Jaimie
--
'The most merciful thing in the world, I think, is the inability of the human
mind to correlate all its contents' - H.P.Lovecraft, "The Call of Cthulhu"
From: Martin S Taylor on
Jaimie Vandenbergh wrote
> I read
> the "Pre-game show" post about 3.1.3 and thought "Actually, that's
> fine, and covers all cases clearly".

What's that, then?

> But I've been jailbreaking since
> a few months after the 2G came out, and I'm 37...

Oh, so have I, even though I'm 53. I'm no newbie, but keeping up with the
battle between Apple and iphone-dev is a struggle (newbie or not) if your
brain only processes correct English.

> Go to iclarified.com for more newbie friendly hints - the 3.1.3
> PwnageTool method/recipe is identical to earlier 3.x versions.

Yes, that *is* a good site for clarity, but it tends only to give recipes,
not understanding. I prefer to know what's happening so that if something
does go wrong I can recover using native intelligence.

> But don't trust any site that says "This won't work" if iphone-dev.org
> says it will (or vice versa), is what I mean.

Agreed.

MST


From: Jaimie Vandenbergh on
On Mon, 22 Feb 2010 11:43:52 GMT, Martin S Taylor
<mst(a)hRyEpMnOoVtEiTsHm.cIo.uSk> wrote:

>Jaimie Vandenbergh wrote
>> I read
>> the "Pre-game show" post about 3.1.3 and thought "Actually, that's
>> fine, and covers all cases clearly".
>
>What's that, then?

Second post on the iphone-dev.org front page.

>> Go to iclarified.com for more newbie friendly hints - the 3.1.3
>> PwnageTool method/recipe is identical to earlier 3.x versions.
>
>Yes, that *is* a good site for clarity, but it tends only to give recipes,
>not understanding. I prefer to know what's happening so that if something
>does go wrong I can recover using native intelligence.

Yeah - that *is* rare from hack sites.

Cheers - Jaimie
--
Pain is nature's way of telling you that you are in terrible agony
From: Martin S Taylor on
Jaimie Vandenbergh wrote
>> Jaimie Vandenbergh wrote
>>> I read
>>> the "Pre-game show" post about 3.1.3 and thought "Actually, that's
>>> fine, and covers all cases clearly".
>>
>> What's that, then?
>
> Second post on the iphone-dev.org front page.

Hmm... It's sentences like:

Superbowl Sunday�s PwnageTool 3.1.5 for Mac OS X will let you do so safely,
preserving your jailbreak and ultrasn0w unlock. �(If you use the blacksn0w
unlock (at baseband 05.11.07), you need to stay at 3.1.2.)

which worry me. What's an ultrasn0w unlock? How is it different from a
blacksn0w unlock, or indeed any other kind? How do I know which I'm using? In
fact, since I'm with O2, how can I tell if my phone is unlocked at all? Which
version of baseband am I using, and how do I find out?

There's a big need for a site which answers these questions in terms an
intelligent but uninformed person can grasp.

MST

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