From: Rowland McDonnell on
Peter Ceresole <peter(a)cara.demon.co.uk> wrote:

> James Jolley <jrjolley(a)me.com> wrote:
>
> > I suppose so. I can't understand how he has a wife or whatever, and
> > still treats people like this?

That sort of abuse, I really dislike. What is it that you allege I've
done wrong? `Treats people like this' - in what way am I mistreating
you, James?

Show me!

Either that, or apologise for insulting me by implying that there's
anything at all wrong with what I'm doing with respect to you.

> > It's not a question of name calling and
> > such, it's a question of sticking up for onesself.
>
> Rowland has a wife. She must be a a remarkable person.

You have a wife - why has she not strangled you?

You're such a nasty piece of work at times, you are, she should have
done.

Nasty piece of work? Yes, the devious underhand snide nastiness of that
post was such you could call it a work of art.

You must have been working on being this nastily bitchy for *decades*.

Rowland.


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Jaimie Vandenbergh <jaimie(a)sometimes.sessile.org> wrote:

[snip]

> My opinion? Asking people who continue to reply to Rowland after he
> goes off the deep end to give up doing so is perfectly acceptable.
> James gets that a lot, recently rather forcefully, because he's
> currently the rantiest responder.

You would do well to bear in mind that any argument takes at least two
responders.

Why do you not refer to the posts from the people who like winding up
James and me in the same pejorative terms which you use for the posts
made by me and James?

There's no justification for the sort of abuse that I've seen levelled
at James on a routine basis, none at all.

And you know what I think of the abuse that I get on a routine basis.

In fact, all I have to do is complain about being abused, and I get
insults, don't I? People calling me mad for complaining about being
insulted.

And somehow that's considered okay, is it? Calling me mad and ignoring
the evidence that I have in fact just been insulted any time I complain
about being insulted?

But it's what happens here routinely - how can such behaviour be
justified?

> So - Please just killfile Rowland, James, or learn to stop responding
> as soon as he goes off. Same goes for Jim, Woody, and Tim, and anyone
> else really. Life in the group would be a lot saner.

Yes, it would be a lot nicer if various posters here kept their nasty
sides under control. And it would be nicer yet if people weren't so
one-sided in their outlook...

Rowland.

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Jim <jim(a)magrathea.plus.com> wrote:

> Steve Firth <%steve%@malloc.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > > Normally, yes. And if you've missed it, it demonstrates what I said
> > > about your incompetance at understanding human relations.
> >
> > You're deluding yourself. And it seems some others of a feeble-minded
> > disposition.
>
> Because it _couldn't_ be that you're wrong, could it?

Of course it could be so - but equally, he could be lying.

That's the bet I'd place: lying.

Rowland.

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From: James Jolley on
On 2010-06-07 17:46:39 +0100,
real-address-in-sig(a)flur.bltigibbet.invalid (Rowland McDonnell) said:

>
> [1] *I* wound him up without understanding how - he got upset because I
> suggesting that it'd be good for blind people to have better computer
> technology. No, really, he did. I cannot work out why or how or
> anything.

You didn't actually. You suggested that developers include a dedicated
blind mode into there applications. Never going to happen and if it
does, I stop using computers. I'm not interested in blindness specific
computing thanks, I work like the sighted as much as possible.

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Jim <jim(a)magrathea.plus.com> wrote:

> Steve Firth <%steve%@malloc.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > > I'm a bit confused about the above. Presumably "all of you" in the
> > > sense of - well, "all of you people in this group"
> >
> > No, it means "all of the clique". The little group who seem to think
> > that they own this group and others must conform to the rules that they
> > lay down. A key rule they are trying to establish at the moment seems to
> > be that no one may object to Rowland's behaviour.
>
> Wow. You really are slightly paranoid, aren't you?

Not at all - he's not quite right from where I'm sat[1], but he's got a
point[1].

Regardless of the fact that he's got a point, you're insulting him in an
outrageously out of order fashion. by just hurling personal abuse at him
in response to him making a perfectly sensible point.

What makes you think that it's acceptable behaviour to deal with a
difference of opinion you have with someone, by hurling personal abuse
at them as a first resort?


Rowland.

[1] That's not quite what they're doing: they're trying to establish
the rule that any of Rowland's opinions can be discarded on the say-so
of one of those folk you refer to, by establishing the rule that he's
mad so any time anyone calls any thing he writes `mad', it's correct to
just totally ignore him because that's `kindest' It's actually aimed at
totally removing my credibility rather than making this newsgroup a
nicer place.

[2] But of course the cabal always denies its existence, and you Jim
are part of the cabal to which Steve Firth refers, so I see. An
outlier, maybe. Who knows? I'm not bothering to pay enough attention
to figure it out.


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