From: Rowland McDonnell on
James Jolley <jrjolley(a)me.com> wrote:

> real-address-in-sig(a)flur.bltigibbet.invalid (Rowland McDonnell) said:
>
> > Tim Streater <timstreater(a)waitrose.com> wrote:
> >
> >> real-not-anti-spam-address(a)apple-juice.co.uk (D.M. Procida) wrote:
> > [snip]
> >>> So, Rowland suffers from some serious mental health issues,
> >
> > <sigh> Only just noticed this. I'm quite disappointed in you:
>
> You keep telling us how ill you're supposed to be. Rowland McFaker

James, I keep on explaining that I suffer from depression and anxiety
with a bit of PTSD and Asperger's syndrome, all of which count as `not
serious mental health issues' by the official authorities who have in
fact seen me in person (unlike you) and actually come up with an actual
formal diagnosis.

And I've told you about their opinions of me - it's not fakery to inform
you of the opinions of the official experts who have officially experted
me half to death with - well, never mind.

> > They are *minor* mental health problems, as I keep on pointing out...
>
> When it suits you,

Which is any time anyone gets it wrong. Should I do it more often than
that? Just throw the point into a conversation at random for no reason?

No?

No, I thought not - so basically you're complaining here that I'm
behaving sensibly. Hardly sensible of you.

>but you keep saying that we make you scream or
> whatever bollocks it is.

I keep complaining that it is the intention of those here who abuse me
to cause that outcome.

I do wish you'd get your complaints against me more accurate.

[snip]

> god knows, your wife's a long suffering woman. OR is she a doll?

My wife is a normal woman, made out of PVC sheeting in China in the
conventional way. You can buy one too just like her if you want.

Rowland.

P.S. Actually, I'm lying. Rebecca is one of these:
<http://www.realdoll.com/>.

I got a win on the national lottery so I got to trade up from the cheap
stuff.

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From: Rowland McDonnell on
Peter Ceresole <peter(a)cara.demon.co.uk> wrote:

> David Kennedy <davidkennedy(a)nospamherethankyou.invalid> wrote:
>
> > Can I nominate this thread for the "Single Most Tedious Thread of 2010"
> > Award?
>
> Seconded.

And you're one of the people who's working on making it so, aren't you
Peter?

Rowland.

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From: Steve Firth on
Pd <peterd.news(a)gmail.invalid> wrote:

> Steve Firth <%steve%@malloc.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > I said no such thing. It's fairly disgusting of you to make that slur.
>
> I had to check the From line there - I thought Rowland had jumped in.

So you're now making up lies, pretending that I said them but it's me
that's like Rowland? Perhaps next time you're in front of a mirror you
could do a reality check.
From: Rowland McDonnell on
James Jolley <jrjolley(a)me.com> wrote:

> real-address-in-sig(a)flur.bltigibbet.invalid (Rowland McDonnell) said:
>
> > [1] *I* wound him up without understanding how - he got upset because I
> > suggesting that it'd be good for blind people to have better computer
> > technology. No, really, he did. I cannot work out why or how or
> > anything.
>
> You didn't actually. You suggested that developers include a dedicated
> blind mode into there applications.

I suggested that computing platform designers should include a dedicated
blind mode in the operating system that developers could exploit for the
benefit of blind users.

If that's not suggesting that blind people should have better
technology, I don't know what is.

How can you claim otherwise and expect to be taken seriously?

<shrug>

> Never going to happen and if it
> does, I stop using computers.

What possible objection could you have to being given a UI which
permitted you to get more work out of a PC with greater ease, and also
permitted you easiest possible access to a greater fraction of the full
features of that PC?

Because that's what I'm talking about.

No, I'm not trying to wind you up, I'm trying to understand something
that I do not understand simply because I'm interested in the
information.

You also seem to have powerful objections to the thought that a computer
firm would develop such a technology - why object to someone proposing
the use of super high technology to make life better for blind people?

I just don't understand.

> I'm not interested in blindness specific
> computing thanks,

Yes, you've explained before how you seem to want things to be slower
and more expensive and more awkward for you than ought to be necessary.
I don't understand you, but if that's what you want, off you go, I
shan't stand in your way.

Not that it much matters: what I'm talking about doesn't actually exist
at the moment, does it?

> I work like the sighted as much as possible.

Oi vey!

I'm not saying *YOU* have to change anything *YOU* do, but don't argue
that everyone else is best served by what you personally choose to do
now, don't argue that they should be denied something better than that
which you personally use now.

Working like the sighted is stupid if you are blind and if there is a
better alternative available - currently, you're stuck with a sighted
persons' GUI with adaptions for the blind so it's not stupid to work
that way.

But why would you not use a really high quality blind mode UI if one
were provided?

I don't understand why you think that your interests are best served
using a UI optmized for the sighted. Your eyes don't work - so surely
you need something /better/: you *deserve* something better from the
tech firms.

That's my line - but I don't say that this proposed better thing should
be compulsory, so if you want to be some old fogie stick in the mud and
stick with what you know, why not? I shan't object.

Rowland.
(who's an old fogie stick in the mud in that sense himself in some
directions, as it happens)

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From: Rowland McDonnell on
Jim <jim(a)magrathea.plus.com> wrote:

> James Dore <james.dore(a)new.ox.ac.uk> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Seconded.
> >>>>
> >>>> Too late.
> >>>>
> >>>> Join the queue.
> >>>
> >>> ". . . you are number 94 in the queue. Your call is important to us,
> >>> please hold . . . . "
> >>>
> >>> <twiddles thumbs>
> >>
> >> [fx:"The Girl From Ipanema" as performed by the Mongolian Nose Flute
> >> orchestra]
> >>
> >> Jim
> >
> > [fx: Cylinder flipped open.
> > Soft chik-chik-chik of .44 cartridges sliding home.
> > Cylinder engaged.
> > Hammer pulled back.
> >
> >
> > BOOOM.
> >
> > Telephone in smoking ruin]
> >
> > "Thankyouverymuch".
>
> Heh.

Just punch the bloody thing, who needs a gun to destroy a phone?

Poofs.

Rowland.

N.B. The above is humour. If you are not entertained: frankly my dear,
I don't giveadamn.

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