From: David Kennedy on
Tim Streater wrote:
>> Can I nominate this thread for the "Single Most Tedious Thread of 2010"
>> Award?
>
> You haven't been on comp.lang.c recently, have you?
>

Correct.

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From: Rowland McDonnell on
Elliott Roper <nospam(a)yrl.co.uk> wrote:

[snip]

> Once Rowland snaps, there is no point in going on.
> There is never any point in sticking up for yourself with Rowland once
> he has. He takes no notice and everyone else thinks you are wasting
> your time.

Elloitt, has it ever occurred to you that maybe your judgement's out to
lunch here?

Not to mention it being very insulting.

> Like a lot of others here, I rather like Rowland. He is smart and very
> logical. A bit like Steve Firth. If only they would back off.

If only the shits here would back off. If only they'd stop behaving so
badly. But of course they won't, will they?

And of course you'll only be pointing your finger in one direction,
taking a very biased view of things for the purposes of keeping the view
of Rowland here in the `hopeless loony' category you like to keep it in.

That's pretty nasty behaviour of you, you know that?

> Neither
> can win. There is no prize even if they could. It is worrying when you
> see smart logical people bickering like that.

It is worrying when you see otherwise decent people engaging in this
kind of snide insulting behaviour, yes indeed.

Very worrying - I don't understand it - to see the appallingly biased
and unfair view of events that is presented by shits like you, yes.

>It would be excellent if
> we could all deal with technical stuff and a bit of OT wit and good
> humour.

It would - shame that so many posters here are ill-mannered abusive
shits who like being nasty to people, isn't it?

>Smart logical people can probably deal with hurling lightning
> bolts of abuse at one another without understanding the swathe of
> destruction they are cutting among us lesser minds.

[snip]

Who knows what that might mean? Nothing to me.

Please explain this snide put-down - I'm sure that's what it is.

Rowland.

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From: Rowland McDonnell on
Jim <jim(a)magrathea.plus.com> wrote:

> Rowland McDonnell <real-address-in-sig(a)flur.bltigibbet.invalid> wrote:
>
> > > You didn't actually. You suggested that developers include a dedicated
> > > blind mode into there applications.
> >
> > I suggested that computing platform designers should include a dedicated
> > blind mode in the operating system that developers could exploit for the
> > benefit of blind users.
>
> Why not just make the existing system blind-friendly? That's what Apple
> does with the Accessibility API.

ARGH!!!!!!

No, it bloody doesn't make things `blind friendly'! It adds some bits
and pieces to permit blind people to make some use of the computer.

And what you get is not very good because it's additions and
modifications to a UI optimized for the sighted.

I'm suggesting something considerably better for blind people.

How hard is that concept to grasp? How many other different ways do I
have to put it before the idea can be rammed past your bone-dome into
your brain, assuming there's one in there?

I'm talking about a complete re-think of the UI so that a blind person
could sit down at MacOS X, hit the `blind mode' switch, and have the
entire UI paradigm replaced with something more optimized for blind
people.

Do you not understand the usability difference that I'm talking about?

I'm talking about PCs where all the software has a UI optimized for the
blind - *ALL* of it, and that is so because the OS works that way: each
app has two UIs, one highly optimized purely for sighted people and one
highly optimized purely for blind people, and /it's all done by the OS/.

It'd take some seriously expensive research, I suspect, but I think it's
do-able in principle and I don't see why any blind person would object
to the idea, I really don't.

Rowland.

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From: Jim on
Rowland McDonnell <real-address-in-sig(a)flur.bltigibbet.invalid> wrote:

[snip]

On a completely unrelated note, you might be interested in the Bletchley
Park Vintage Computer Festival, June 19th and 20th. They're going to
have (amongst others) Sophie ne� Roger Wilson, co-BBC Micro developer.

<http://www.bletchleypark.org.uk/calendar/event_detail.rhtm?cat=*&recID=
594620>

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From: zoara on
James Jolley <jrjolley(a)me.com> wrote:
> On 2010-06-07 15:05:22 +0100, Jim <jim(a)magrathea.plus.com> said:
>
>> On 2010-06-07, James Jolley <jrjolley(a)me.com> wrote:
>>> On 2010-06-07 14:09:51 +0100, peterd.news(a)gmail.invalid (Pd) said:
>>>>>> D.M. Procida <real-not-anti-spam-address(a)apple-juice.co.uk>
> > > > > > wrote:
>>>>>>>> Apart from anything else, do you really want to fall asleep at
> > > > > > > > night
>>>>> thinking "What did I do today? Oh, I exchanged abuse on the
> > > > > Internet
>>>>> with a mentally ill person."
>>>>>>> Yes, but I WON!
>>>>> Tosser!
>>> Now I *know* Pd was joking, I'm not too sure about you.
>>> I'm going to go with 'yes'. [grin]
>>> Jim
>
> I was actually yes. Sort of being sarcastic and not at the same time.

Group hug time.

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