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From: Pd on 8 Jun 2010 04:22 zoara <me18(a)privacy.net> wrote: > James Jolley <jrjolley(a)me.com> wrote: > > On 2010-06-07 15:05:22 +0100, Jim <jim(a)magrathea.plus.com> said: > > > >> On 2010-06-07, James Jolley <jrjolley(a)me.com> wrote: > >>> On 2010-06-07 14:09:51 +0100, peterd.news(a)gmail.invalid (Pd) said: > >>>>>> D.M. Procida <real-not-anti-spam-address(a)apple-juice.co.uk> > > > > > > > wrote: > >>>>>>>> Apart from anything else, do you really want to fall asleep at > > > > > > > > > night > >>>>> thinking "What did I do today? Oh, I exchanged abuse on the > > > > > > Internet > >>>>> with a mentally ill person." > >>>>>>> Yes, but I WON! > >>>>> Tosser! > >>> Now I *know* Pd was joking, I'm not too sure about you. > >>> I'm going to go with 'yes'. [grin] > >>> Jim > > > > I was actually yes. Sort of being sarcastic and not at the same time. > > Group hug time. *biff* -- Pd
From: Dr Geoff Hone on 8 Jun 2010 04:47 On Mon, 7 Jun 2010 21:38:57 +0100, real-address-in-sig(a)flur.bltigibbet.invalid (Rowland McDonnell) wrote: > >No-one else in history has ever been able to do predict the future; what >makes you think you're so special? > Tell that to Ray Kurtzweil. He has made a large fortune out of predicting the future. (Oh gosh, I think that included text-to-speech converters about 25+ years ago) FWIW, I totally agree with James. Blindness is a disability. It happens to be an extreme disability. He, and all other people with disabilities have an absolute right to live their lives in the same way as normal people (defined as those without any condition that is considered as a disability). Even some "normal" people have problems (thats normal as defined above). just ask any one who is left handed. Most websites (most programs come to that) are designed by RH folk for RH folk. Now you can use a Windoze PC and switch the mouse button functions, OR you can use a Mac with a "one button" mouse. If the menus are still laid out for RHanders there is still a problem, but it is smaller with the OSX interface. Anyone want to deny LH people the right to use a computer? Geoff
From: D.M. Procida on 8 Jun 2010 05:03 Dr Geoff Hone <gnhone(a)globalnet.co.uk> wrote: > Anyone want to deny LH people the right to use a computer? Those freaks deserve what they get. Daniele
From: Rowland McDonnell on 8 Jun 2010 06:21 Dr Geoff Hone <gnhone(a)globalnet.co.uk> wrote: > real-address-in-sig(a)flur.bltigibbet.invalid (Rowland McDonnell) wrote: > > > > >No-one else in history has ever been able to do predict the future; what > >makes you think you're so special? > > > Tell that to Ray Kurtzweil. He has made a large fortune out of > predicting the future. Yes indeed - he's convinced many people to give him money for pontificating. He's hopeless at predicting the future, though - his ideas are mostly wrong and where they are not wrong they are trivial. Such as predicting text to speech conversion - well, that was trivial because the components existed before text to speech conversion existed. Voders and computers with interfaces, that is. >(Oh gosh, I think that included text-to-speech > converters about 25+ years ago) Oh gosh, text to speech conversion existed 30+ years ago. Kurtzweil is a showman, nothing more. Predicting the invention of technology that already exists is no trick at all - unless you can convince the gullible such as yourself that you didn't just steal the idea from someone else or lie and `predict' something that already exists. Predicting how society is going to change in response to new technology would be good - but Kurtzweil's proven useless at that, too. He's a con-man, a showman, a rip-off artist who's doing it the moral way - ripping off the rich. > FWIW, I totally agree with James. You're a stirrer, that's all. > Blindness is a disability. It > happens to be an extreme disability. He, and all other people with > disabilities have an absolute right to live their lives in the same > way as normal people (defined as those without any condition that is > considered as a disability). [snip] The `absolute right' you refer to is an impossible fantasy. No blind person can use a computer as a sighted person can do because they do not have eyes. This `right' you refer to is nonsensical for that reason. To enable disabled people to live in a fashion as close to that which the rest of us manage, I propose better use of high technology. For some reason, you and James think that blind people should be denied the benefits of the best that the techno-wizards can do - and you *claim* (bizarrely) that this is because you want them to have the same use of computers that the rest of us have. But that's impossible, because blind people are blind. I think, for the purposes of permitting blind people to have full normal access to what the rest of us have, that better should be demanded. You think that blind people should be excluded from society - I don't. That's the difference between you and me: I want blind people taken out of the ghetto that society puts them in. You want them to stay there. Rowland. -- Remove the animal for email address: rowland.mcdonnell(a)dog.physics.org Sorry - the spam got to me http://www.mag-uk.org http://www.bmf.co.uk UK biker? Join MAG and the BMF and stop the Eurocrats banning biking
From: Woody on 8 Jun 2010 06:34
Dr Geoff Hone <gnhone(a)globalnet.co.uk> wrote: > Anyone want to deny LH people the right to use a computer? Yes. We have been pandering to those bastards way too long -- Woody |