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From: nospam on 19 Nov 2009 22:04 In article <doraymeRidThis-5C8BA9.13325620112009(a)news.albasani.net>, dorayme <doraymeRidThis(a)optusnet.com.au> wrote: > > > How many people have car accidents where speed that they cannot safely > > > handle is the big culprit? Should car manufacturers be liable for not > > > making their vehicles unable to go past 30 mph? The mere numbers of > > > irresponsible people is no key to understanding issues. You are thinking > > > too simplistically. > > > > auto manufacturers are required to make safe cars. > > They can't the way you have been arguing unless they speed control their > products. sure they can. people drive safely at high speeds every day.
From: nospam on 19 Nov 2009 22:04 In article <doraymeRidThis-4D1444.13271920112009(a)news.albasani.net>, dorayme <doraymeRidThis(a)optusnet.com.au> wrote: > > > > > Part of MacD's irresponsible behavior was to ignore numerous > > > > > complaints > > > > > about the excessive temperature their coffee was served at. This was > > > > > a > > > > > matter of record and part of the evidence against MacD, and they were > > > > > held liable for it. Justly, I think. > > > > > > > > that's what did them in. > > > > > > It was not excessive and they merely admitted this for commercial > > > reasons. > > > > their court testimony was solely for commercial gain??? that's *well* > > beyond ludicrous. > > Gosh, you are naive. Everything most big commercial outfits say is for > commercial reasons. Have I become too cynical? cynical is not the word i would choose. > > 700 injuries over ten years is one accident roughly every five days! > > In how many customers? the issue is not that it was 700 out of x, but rather it had been ongoing and no attempt was made to do anything about it. they just didn't care if people were burned.
From: dorayme on 19 Nov 2009 22:10 In article <191120092204306901%nospam(a)nospam.invalid>, nospam <nospam(a)nospam.invalid> wrote: > the issue is not that it was 700 out of x, but rather it had been > ongoing and no attempt was made to do anything about it. they just > didn't care if people were burned. How do you know that they did not care? Maybe they thought people should be careful and some things are those people's responsibility. -- dorayme
From: dorayme on 19 Nov 2009 22:14 In article <191120092204276751%nospam(a)nospam.invalid>, nospam <nospam(a)nospam.invalid> wrote: > In article <doraymeRidThis-4BB9E3.13314720112009(a)news.albasani.net>, > dorayme <doraymeRidThis(a)optusnet.com.au> wrote: > > > > but even if they were lying, why would they say they were doing > > > something wrong if they weren't? > > > > C'mon now, nospam, are you serious? Whenever I appear for parole or for > > bail, I lie through my teeth to make a good impression. Companies and > > politicians regularly and insincerely and belatedly apologise for stuff > > if they think it will limit the damages. > > but in this case, it didn't limit their damages at all, it increased > it! there's not much of a motivation to lie to make it worse. How do you know this? And how do you know it might not have been financially worse for them if they did not "show contrition". What do you know about commercial decision making and publicity? You are too confident about too much. You don't see me being so forthright. Because I know my limitations and am therefore given to humbleness and great care. -- dorayme
From: dorayme on 19 Nov 2009 22:15
In article <191120092204296849%nospam(a)nospam.invalid>, nospam <nospam(a)nospam.invalid> wrote: > In article <doraymeRidThis-5C8BA9.13325620112009(a)news.albasani.net>, > dorayme <doraymeRidThis(a)optusnet.com.au> wrote: > > > > > How many people have car accidents where speed that they cannot safely > > > > handle is the big culprit? Should car manufacturers be liable for not > > > > making their vehicles unable to go past 30 mph? The mere numbers of > > > > irresponsible people is no key to understanding issues. You are > > > > thinking > > > > too simplistically. > > > > > > auto manufacturers are required to make safe cars. > > > > They can't the way you have been arguing unless they speed control their > > products. > > sure they can. people drive safely at high speeds every day. People get very hot coffee everyday and don't spill it. -- dorayme |