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From: Wes Groleau on 19 Nov 2009 20:20 nospam wrote: > <Groleau+news(a)FreeShell.org> wrote: >>> Well, how about this: she suffered third-degree burns and required skin >>> grafts. >> Does it actually say that in the transcripts? > > yes it does. > > she suffered 3rd degree burns (full thickness, to the bone) over 6% of Well, I guess they've changed the definition. Like I said, "back in the day" _charred_ flesh was part of the definition. -- Wes Groleau Secunia Software to help you update http://Ideas.Lang-Learn.us/russell?itemid=1430
From: Jamie Kahn Genet on 19 Nov 2009 20:21 nospam <nospam(a)nospam.invalid> wrote: > In article <doraymeRidThis-40CDAB.12015419112009(a)news.albasani.net>, > dorayme <doraymeRidThis(a)optusnet.com.au> wrote: > > > > Coffee > > > is supposed to be sold at a drinkable temperature > > > > You just make things up as they suit you. It is not *supposed* to be > > this at all for reasons I have given. > > it's a legal requirement that food sold be safe to consume. that > includes not just being free of dirt, insects and pathogens, but also > at a temperature that won't injure the consumer. The they'd better not serve me hot food next time I go out! If I dumped it all in my lap I could get a nasty burn! That's it - all warm food from now on. Warm chips. Warm ribs. Warm pasta. Mmmm.. warm food - yum! -- If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.
From: dorayme on 19 Nov 2009 20:23 In article <he4qoc$74m$2(a)news.eternal-september.org>, Wes Groleau <Groleau+news(a)FreeShell.org> wrote: > dorayme wrote: > > If it is so commonplace to spill it despite the *extra care* that is due > > to it being very hot very hot, then perhaps a notice to take care or to > > supply much better cups and lids with notices on them at greater cost is > > Actually, due in part to this case, most to-go coffee cups > in USA now have printed on them warnings that the contents > are hot, handle with care in English, French, and Spanish. > > I've seen some that also have it in German. Excellent, now they can make coffee piping hot again. <g> -- dorayme
From: nospam on 19 Nov 2009 21:07 In article <doraymeRidThis-ACCD7A.12121220112009(a)news.albasani.net>, dorayme <doraymeRidThis(a)optusnet.com.au> wrote: > > > You should know that many people will say many unreasonable > > > and untrue things when it will be worse for them if they don't. > > > > some do, but in this case, what mcdonalds said was what did them in. > > This looks like an expression of a gift for misunderstanding. We are > discussing if what McD said was true and right and just. You are simply > very happy, once again, with the mere superficial facts. they said so under oath, so one can assume it's true, especially since there was never any doubt nor any claim of perjury. you are seriously grasping at straws. but even if they were lying, why would they say they were doing something wrong if they weren't?
From: nospam on 19 Nov 2009 21:07
In article <doraymeRidThis-60626C.12190720112009(a)news.albasani.net>, dorayme <doraymeRidThis(a)optusnet.com.au> wrote: > > > She placed the cup of hot coffee between her legs. It sloshed out and > > > she got burned. How anyone got to her age without being aware of the > > > risk of her action is amazing. > > > > the issue is not that she got burned but that the burns were so severe, > > and had occurred some 700 times before to other mcdonalds patrons. > > How many people have car accidents where speed that they cannot safely > handle is the big culprit? Should car manufacturers be liable for not > making their vehicles unable to go past 30 mph? The mere numbers of > irresponsible people is no key to understanding issues. You are thinking > too simplistically. auto manufacturers are required to make safe cars. toyota just recalled 3.8 million vehicles because the accelerator pedal could be held at full throttle due to a defective floor mat. they didn't blow it off and say 'drive carefully.' |