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From: The Older Gentleman on 27 Jun 2010 16:48 Rowland McDonnell <real-address-in-sig(a)flur.bltigibbet.invalid> wrote: > He, erm, pops up with some implied personal abuse Really? Where? -- BMW K1100LT Ducati 750SS Honda CB400F Triumph Street Triple Suzuki TS250ER GN250 Damn, back to six bikes! Try Googling before asking a damn silly question. chateau dot murray at idnet dot com
From: Graeme on 28 Jun 2010 08:38 In message <timstreater-503405.23050126062010(a)news.individual.net> Tim Streater <timstreater(a)waitrose.com> wrote: [snip] > > To which roads do you refer? Seems to me that in the early 1820s, 1830s, > there were mere tracks and you had a lumpy ride in a stage coach if you > were lucky (cue footage of any costume drama). What *was* starting at > the time were the canals Canals had been around for quite a long time by the time the railways came. The earliest was the Exeter Lighter Canal which was completed in 1566! Road improvements by the likes of Telford, Metcalfe and Macadam date to the end of the 18th Century. The problem with the steam coaches was that they were slow and not very reliable making them little improvement over the stage coaches. -- Graeme Wall My genealogy website <www.greywall.demon.co.uk/genealogy/>
From: Graham J on 28 Jun 2010 12:21 "Graeme" <Graeme(a)greywall.demon.co.uk> wrote in message news:29ae742e51%Graeme(a)greywall.demon.co.uk... > In message <timstreater-503405.23050126062010(a)news.individual.net> > Tim Streater <timstreater(a)waitrose.com> wrote: > > [snip] >> >> To which roads do you refer? Seems to me that in the early 1820s, 1830s, >> there were mere tracks and you had a lumpy ride in a stage coach if you >> were lucky (cue footage of any costume drama). What *was* starting at >> the time were the canals > > Canals had been around for quite a long time by the time the railways > came. > The earliest was the Exeter Lighter Canal which was completed in 1566! > Road > improvements by the likes of Telford, Metcalfe and Macadam date to the end > of > the 18th Century. The problem with the steam coaches was that they were > slow > and not very reliable making them little improvement over the stage > coaches. Mainland Europe had canals much earlier, probably since Roman times. See: http://oxrep.classics.ox.ac.uk/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=64&Itemid=110 The Egyptians had them even earlier, but probably only as aqueducts. -- Graham J
From: Graeme on 28 Jun 2010 14:16 In message <4c28cc00$0$28008$db0fefd9(a)news.zen.co.uk> "Graham J" <graham(a)invalid> wrote: > > "Graeme" <Graeme(a)greywall.demon.co.uk> wrote in message > news:29ae742e51%Graeme(a)greywall.demon.co.uk... > > In message <timstreater-503405.23050126062010(a)news.individual.net> > > Tim Streater <timstreater(a)waitrose.com> wrote: > > > > [snip] > >> > >> To which roads do you refer? Seems to me that in the early 1820s, 1830s, > >> there were mere tracks and you had a lumpy ride in a stage coach if you > >> were lucky (cue footage of any costume drama). What *was* starting at > >> the time were the canals > > > > Canals had been around for quite a long time by the time the railways > > came. > > The earliest was the Exeter Lighter Canal which was completed in 1566! > > Road improvements by the likes of Telford, Metcalfe and Macadam date to > > the end of the 18th Century. The problem with the steam coaches was > > that they were slow and not very reliable making them little improvement > > over the stage coaches. > > Mainland Europe had canals much earlier, probably since Roman times. See: > > http://oxrep.classics.ox.ac.uk/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=64&Itemid=110 So did the Greeks, but I was confining myself to this country. > > The Egyptians had them even earlier, but probably only as aqueducts. > Doubtless the Chinese had them even earlier! -- Graeme Wall My genealogy website <www.greywall.demon.co.uk/genealogy/>
From: Rowland McDonnell on 29 Jun 2010 01:55
The Older Gentleman <totallydeadmailbox(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > Rowland McDonnell <real-address-in-sig(a)flur.bltigibbet.invalid> wrote: > > > He, erm, pops up with some implied personal abuse > > Really? Where? Ye gods - does he ever let up? TOG, take your tablets, your OCD is well out of hand. Rowland. -- Remove the animal for email address: rowland.mcdonnell(a)dog.physics.org Sorry - the spam got to me http://www.mag-uk.org http://www.bmf.co.uk UK biker? Join MAG and the BMF and stop the Eurocrats banning biking |