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From: John Larkin on 2 Jan 2010 20:08 On Fri, 01 Jan 2010 14:20:48 -0500, Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless(a)electrooptical.net> wrote: >On 1/1/2010 2:18 PM, John Larkin wrote: >> On Fri, 01 Jan 2010 13:40:32 -0500, Phil Hobbs >> <pcdhSpamMeSenseless(a)electrooptical.net> wrote: >> >>> On 1/1/2010 1:10 PM, John Larkin wrote: >>>> On Fri, 01 Jan 2010 11:28:56 -0500, Phil Hobbs >>>> <pcdhSpamMeSenseless(a)electrooptical.net> wrote: >>>> >>>>> On 1/1/2010 10:20 AM, Fred Abse wrote: >>>>>> On Fri, 01 Jan 2010 00:49:11 +0000, Jan Panteltje wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> It is 'bison kit', or translated 'Bison Glue'. >>>>>> >>>>>> What is the difference between a buffalo and a bison? >>>>> >>>>> Like "What's the difference between a Stoic and a Cynic? >>>>> >>>> >>>> I couldn't care less. >>>> >>>> John >>>> >>> >>> Snow a bit heavy, is it? ;) >> >> Cold means nothing to me. >> >> John >> > >I thought you were one of those tropical types who freeze solid at 60 F. > >Cheers > >Phil Hobbs I grew up in New Orleans and hated the weather. San Francisco is cool almost all of the time, and the few days a year when it gets hot the humidity is in the 30% sort of range. We don't have air conditioning and don't need it. John
From: Joerg on 2 Jan 2010 20:07 who where wrote: > On Sat, 02 Jan 2010 13:48:08 -0800, Joerg <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> > wrote: > > (snip) > >> A capacity limit is a serious reason to contract out some stuff. The >> boards I got back from places like Burch never looked cheap. Even the >> ones from Shenzen don't. > > Who do you use in Shenzen? This company: http://seic.manufacturer.globalsources.com/si/6008800796388/Homepage.htm -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ "gmail" domain blocked because of excessive spam. Use another domain or send PM.
From: krw on 2 Jan 2010 22:36 On Sat, 02 Jan 2010 17:03:43 -0800, John Larkin <jjlarkin(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote: >On Thu, 31 Dec 2009 09:41:54 -0800, "Joel Koltner" ><zapwireDASHgroups(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > >>"John Larkin" <jjlarkin(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote in message >>news:7glpj5l1a7i5nm45bsp5gfhc016e3kjgo8(a)4ax.com... >>> On Thu, 31 Dec 2009 09:10:22 -0700, Don Lancaster <don(a)tinaja.com> >>>>It is NEVER right the first time. >>> We sell about 80% of our rev A boards, with no prototypes. Assuming >>> the first unit won't work is self-fulfilling, and a good way to make >>> sure the third iteration won't work either. >> >>I agree with your philosophy John... but you do allow yourself a non-zero >>number of blue wires or a couple of tack-soldered components or something on >>those saleable rev. A boards too though, right? > >Sure, that happens. But it's supposed to be embarassing. > >We make blue boards and I think we should use red wires. But >production insists on blue. I know one company that does use red wires, so oops's stand out like the sore thumb they are.
From: Jim Thompson on 2 Jan 2010 22:45 On Sat, 02 Jan 2010 21:36:09 -0600, krw <krw(a)att.bizzzzzzzzzzz> wrote: >On Sat, 02 Jan 2010 17:03:43 -0800, John Larkin ><jjlarkin(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote: > >>On Thu, 31 Dec 2009 09:41:54 -0800, "Joel Koltner" >><zapwireDASHgroups(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >> >>>"John Larkin" <jjlarkin(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote in message >>>news:7glpj5l1a7i5nm45bsp5gfhc016e3kjgo8(a)4ax.com... >>>> On Thu, 31 Dec 2009 09:10:22 -0700, Don Lancaster <don(a)tinaja.com> >>>>>It is NEVER right the first time. >>>> We sell about 80% of our rev A boards, with no prototypes. Assuming >>>> the first unit won't work is self-fulfilling, and a good way to make >>>> sure the third iteration won't work either. >>> >>>I agree with your philosophy John... but you do allow yourself a non-zero >>>number of blue wires or a couple of tack-soldered components or something on >>>those saleable rev. A boards too though, right? >> >>Sure, that happens. But it's supposed to be embarassing. >> >>We make blue boards and I think we should use red wires. But >>production insists on blue. > >I know one company that does use red wires, so oops's stand out like >the sore thumb they are. Isn't "blue wire" sort of a historic standard ?:-) ...Jim Thompson -- | James E.Thompson, CTO | mens | | Analog Innovations, Inc. | et | | Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus | | Phoenix, Arizona 85048 Skype: Contacts Only | | | Voice:(480)460-2350 Fax: Available upon request | Brass Rat | | E-mail Icon at http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 | I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.
From: krw on 2 Jan 2010 22:58
On Sat, 02 Jan 2010 20:45:11 -0700, Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon(a)My-Web-Site.com/Snicker> wrote: >On Sat, 02 Jan 2010 21:36:09 -0600, krw <krw(a)att.bizzzzzzzzzzz> wrote: > >>On Sat, 02 Jan 2010 17:03:43 -0800, John Larkin >><jjlarkin(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote: >> >>>On Thu, 31 Dec 2009 09:41:54 -0800, "Joel Koltner" >>><zapwireDASHgroups(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >>> >>>>"John Larkin" <jjlarkin(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote in message >>>>news:7glpj5l1a7i5nm45bsp5gfhc016e3kjgo8(a)4ax.com... >>>>> On Thu, 31 Dec 2009 09:10:22 -0700, Don Lancaster <don(a)tinaja.com> >>>>>>It is NEVER right the first time. >>>>> We sell about 80% of our rev A boards, with no prototypes. Assuming >>>>> the first unit won't work is self-fulfilling, and a good way to make >>>>> sure the third iteration won't work either. >>>> >>>>I agree with your philosophy John... but you do allow yourself a non-zero >>>>number of blue wires or a couple of tack-soldered components or something on >>>>those saleable rev. A boards too though, right? >>> >>>Sure, that happens. But it's supposed to be embarassing. >>> >>>We make blue boards and I think we should use red wires. But >>>production insists on blue. >> >>I know one company that does use red wires, so oops's stand out like >>the sore thumb they are. > >Isn't "blue wire" sort of a historic standard ?:-) In IBM they were known as "yellow wires", not matter what color. The original Teflon WireWrap wires were yellow and the name was kept. I don't even remember what color we use now. |