How to remount a USB drive
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From: Pd on 22 Jan 2010 03:24 T i m <news(a)spaced.me.uk> wrote: > However, how would you know how much of a risk it was (or wasn't) if > you don't do it that way most of the time (as I guess many of us > probably do)? Like my mum never backs up anything, because she's never ever had a hard disk fail. So it's no risk at all, right? -- Pd
From: Mike Dee on 22 Jan 2010 03:25 In article <1jcplyz.wxmihs1uyhi0nN%peter(a)cara.demon.co.uk>, peter(a)cara.demon.co.uk (Peter Ceresole) wrote: > Mike Dee <emteedee(a)emteedee.invalid> wrote: > > > Unless... you use a hub with switches on each port. I've started using > > "Connectland" mini hubs (Code.3401167 HUB-USB2-151-BK) > > Ah... I'm using a Kensington hub that doesn't have anything as smart as > that. They may be smart, but possibly cost less or about the same as the Kensington. I bought mine for AUS$12 (I'm currently "Down Under") and have been replacing my other hubs with these, since. Another good thing is that you can have up to 4 thumb drives "parked" mounting them only when you need to without pulling them in and out of the hub. Um, the web site link in my previous post has made a boo boo with the info supplied, it wrongly mention 2 ports on the top of the device and fails to mention the power switches. The picture on the page is accurate tho', clearly depicting the switches. -- dee
From: Rowland McDonnell on 22 Jan 2010 05:27 Peter Ceresole <peter(a)cara.demon.co.uk> wrote: > T i m <news(a)spaced.me.uk> wrote: > > > Do you *have* to eject it? > > Yes, it tidies the file system before ejecting. With something as > primitive as a FAT drive, you don't need to. Oh no? Caches? What about them? With the old MS-DOS way of doing disc access, no you'd have no trouble. With modern methods, surely you have to unmount first to ensure everything's actually made it into magnetic patterns rather than hanging around as packets of electrons. And you'll have that problem whatever the actual disc *format*. > But if you just yank it out, on a Mac, it *can* (but usually doesn't) > get some file system corruption. Doesn't that get fixed automatically these days, what with the whole journalling thing? Rowland. (who always, always, always runs an explicit repair if he's unplugged a mass storage device without unmounting it properly first; or in case of crashes cause the same problem) -- Remove the animal for email address: rowland.mcdonnell(a)dog.physics.org Sorry - the spam got to me http://www.mag-uk.org http://www.bmf.co.uk UK biker? Join MAG and the BMF and stop the Eurocrats banning biking
From: Rowland McDonnell on 22 Jan 2010 05:27 Woody <usenet(a)alienrat.co.uk> wrote: > Peter Ceresole <peter(a)cara.demon.co.uk> wrote: > > > T i m <news(a)spaced.me.uk> wrote: > > > > > Do you *have* to eject it? > > > > Yes, it tidies the file system before ejecting. With something as > > primitive as a FAT drive, you don't need to. > > > > But if you just yank it out, on a Mac, it *can* (but usually doesn't) > > get some file system corruption. > > It can on windows too. I have fixed a couple that knackered sticks doing > it, but it doesn't stop me doing it! You are not merely a fool, you're a damned fool because you know exactly /why/ that's a bloody stupid idea. > Although once I copied a lot of files to my stick and grabed it as i was > in a hurry and when i got home all the files claimed to be there but > they were all almost empty. All 6000 of them - oops! Quite. Caches... If nothing else, there're caches that need flushing out. Rowland. -- Remove the animal for email address: rowland.mcdonnell(a)dog.physics.org Sorry - the spam got to me http://www.mag-uk.org http://www.bmf.co.uk UK biker? Join MAG and the BMF and stop the Eurocrats banning biking
From: Woody on 22 Jan 2010 05:40
On 22/01/2010 10:27, Rowland McDonnell wrote: > Woody<usenet(a)alienrat.co.uk> wrote: > >> Peter Ceresole<peter(a)cara.demon.co.uk> wrote: >> >>> T i m<news(a)spaced.me.uk> wrote: >>> >>>> Do you *have* to eject it? >>> >>> Yes, it tidies the file system before ejecting. With something as >>> primitive as a FAT drive, you don't need to. >>> >>> But if you just yank it out, on a Mac, it *can* (but usually doesn't) >>> get some file system corruption. >> >> It can on windows too. I have fixed a couple that knackered sticks doing >> it, but it doesn't stop me doing it! > > You are not merely a fool, you're a damned fool because you know exactly > /why/ that's a bloody stupid idea. No, I do it about 10 to 20 times a day, every (week)day and in the last 8 years I have had trouble twice. So vanishingly small a problem it is that if I had unmounted the disk each time I would be hundreds of hours worse off. > Quite. > > Caches... If nothing else, there're caches that need flushing out. Not post write caches on a memory stick there aren't. -- Woody |