How to remount a USB drive
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From: T i m on 22 Jan 2010 06:01 On Fri, 22 Jan 2010 10:27:28 +0000, real-address-in-sig(a)flur.bltigibbet.invalid (Rowland McDonnell) wrote: >Peter Ceresole <peter(a)cara.demon.co.uk> wrote: > >> T i m <news(a)spaced.me.uk> wrote: >> >> > Do you *have* to eject it? >> >> Yes, it tidies the file system before ejecting. With something as >> primitive as a FAT drive, you don't need to. > >Oh no? Caches? What about them? You deal with that with experience and knowing exactly how soon to yank the drive out (and often with the conformation of your eyes if there is an LED on there and it's stopped indicating 'activity', as has been mentioned elsewhere). >With the old MS-DOS way of doing disc >access, no you'd have no trouble. With modern methods, surely you have >to unmount first to ensure everything's actually made it into magnetic >patterns rather than hanging around as packets of electrons. > Well, I guess it says on the packet that's what you should do but it seems not all of us do what it says on the packet. Like Woody I've been using these (pen drives) and external hard drives / digital cameras / GPSs like this for *years* and rarely [1] have any issues. Just as I have been using knives before HSE put "This is sharp and could cut you" stickers on them and not hurt myself that often. What I *don't* generally do though is just turn my computers off with the power button without shutting them down first because shutting them down properly is quicker, easier and safer. Cheers, T i m [1] So rare that it's not time / risk efficient to bother.
From: T i m on 22 Jan 2010 06:03 On Fri, 22 Jan 2010 10:47:48 +0000, Jim <jim(a)magrathea.plus.com> wrote: >On 2010-01-22, T i m <news(a)spaced.me.uk> wrote: >>>> >>>> No, I do it about 10 to 20 times a day, every (week)day and in the last >>>> 8 years I have had trouble twice. So vanishingly small a problem it is >>>> that if I had unmounted the disk each time I would be hundreds of hours >>>> worse off. >>> >>>Some memory sticks even indicate their state - I've one here that flashes >>>on/off when being accessed, then softly pulses (like a sleeping MacBook) >>>when it isn't. It's generally safe to yank it when it's pulsing. >>> >>>And don't you *dare* quote that out of context..! >> >> Like wot I said back there then: "If you go 'copy files, note it's >> finished copying (typically flashing LED) ... yank' then?" > >I missed the start of this thread. Well keep up at the back .. ;-) T i m
From: Rowland McDonnell on 22 Jan 2010 06:03 SteveH <italiancar(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Peter Ceresole <peter(a)cara.demon.co.uk> wrote: > > > T i m <news(a)spaced.me.uk> wrote: > > > > > And most pen drives probably are FAT aren't they (as / supplied / by > > > default)? > > > > Yes. And one of my thumb drives is as delivered, still, just in case I > > have to swap files with a PeeCee. But on the Mac, transfers are quicker > > with a Mac formatted drive, so the first thing I normally do is to > > reformat them to the bright side. > > On a related note - why do Macs copy to and from FAT sticks > significantly quicker than Windows boxes do? Because the Windoze boxes in question are less efficient at doing so than Macs. I know that's not hugely helpful. Could be software (i.e., MS's file system code might be inefficient); or it might be hardware inefficiency - in which case, blame the people who came up with the hardware you're using. I know, little help - but it's all that anyone seems to be able to say about it at this point. Not really relevant to this point, but I have noticed that FW (original 400Mb/s) is quite a lot faster than USB2, despite USB2 having a marketing speed of 480Mbit/s. I have various external HDDs in boxes with FW and USB 2, you see. Rowland. -- Remove the animal for email address: rowland.mcdonnell(a)dog.physics.org Sorry - the spam got to me http://www.mag-uk.org http://www.bmf.co.uk UK biker? Join MAG and the BMF and stop the Eurocrats banning biking
From: Rowland McDonnell on 22 Jan 2010 06:08 Jim <jim(a)magrathea.plus.com> wrote: > Woody <usenet(a)alienrat.co.uk> wrote: > > > > No, I do it about 10 to 20 times a day, every (week)day and in the last > > 8 years I have had trouble twice. So vanishingly small a problem it is > > that if I had unmounted the disk each time I would be hundreds of hours > > worse off. > > Some memory sticks even indicate their state - I've one here that flashes > on/off when being accessed, then softly pulses (like a sleeping MacBook) > when it isn't. It's generally safe to yank it when it's pulsing. > > And don't you *dare* quote that out of context..! Silly boy. I'd not have noticed if you'd not drawn my attention... Rowland. P.S. So everybody, this is what we have: As Jim said in his post <slrnhlj0d1.22en.jim(a)wotan.magrathea.local> "It's generally safe to yank it when it's pulsing." -- Remove the animal for email address: rowland.mcdonnell(a)dog.physics.org Sorry - the spam got to me http://www.mag-uk.org http://www.bmf.co.uk UK biker? Join MAG and the BMF and stop the Eurocrats banning biking
From: Jim on 22 Jan 2010 06:10
On 2010-01-22, T i m <news(a)spaced.me.uk> wrote: >>> >>> Like wot I said back there then: "If you go 'copy files, note it's >>> finished copying (typically flashing LED) ... yank' then?" >> >>I missed the start of this thread. > > Well keep up at the back .. ;-) Heh. Jim -- http://www.ursaMinorBeta.co.uk http://twitter.com/GreyAreaUK "Get over here. Now. Might be advisable to wear brown trousers and a shirt the colour of blood." Malcolm Tucker, "The Thick of It" |