From: Jim on
On 2010-01-22, whisky-dave <whisky-dave(a)final.front.ear> wrote:
>
> "Jim" <jim(a)magrathea.plus.com> wrote in message
> news:slrnhlj0d1.22en.jim(a)wotan.magrathea.local...
>> On 2010-01-22, Woody <usenet(a)alienrat.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> when it isn't. It's generally safe to yank it when it's pulsing.
>
> Even if you're catholic ;-)
>
>> And don't you *dare* quote that out of context..!
>
> Doh !

[sigh]

[Note to self: stop doing that.]

Jim
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From: whisky-dave on

"Rowland McDonnell" <real-address-in-sig(a)flur.bltigibbet.invalid> wrote in
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>
> Could you perhaps provide me with a pointer or at least a search term
> that'd get me the information you refer to, in your condescending and
> insulting manner?

I found this
http://www.uwe-sieber.de/usbstick_e.html
search string "USB thumb drive cache"
Interresting site I must read it all when I have time.

Safe removal

An USB drive should never be removed without logging it off,
especially when the drive has a write cache. The official way is thru a
symbol in the systray and some mouse clicks.
For 'removable' drives as internal card readers the media should be
'ejected': Right click the drive in the Windows Explorer, select 'Eject'
here. Under XP this is not allowed for restricted users but this can be
enabled by a policy.

---------------------------------------------------------------

I always try to unmount first just to be on the safe side, a bit like
still checking for on coming traffic even if you have right of way.
All of my Macs have the USB drive connected tio the back so
I can't see the LED flashing without having to get up.





From: Mike Dee on
real-address-in-sig(a)flur.bltigibbet.invalid (Rowland McDonnell)
wrote:

> Mike Dee <mikedee(a)emteedee.invalid> wrote:
>
[...]
>> The last time I _accidentally_ removed a thumb drive (it was on
>> Windows at the time) the drive got hosed, losing everything on
>> it.
>
> Hmm - according to some here, that can't happen. What was going
> on?
>
>> Better safe than sorry I say (I try not to remove USB sticks
>> until I know its safe to, period).
>
> Full stop, surely ;-)

Most assuredly ;-)

> But: how do you ensure `safe' unless you unmount?

That's the only way I know of to be "safe" WRT USB thumb drives.

And as Pluto so eloquently said (on some web forum) back in '05
<http://www.pcuser.com.au/pcuser/hs2.nsf/lookup+1/67436970427F488DCA256E990018F119>

---- Pluto's post ----

PlutoPosted: 25/05/2005

re: Can data be corrupted by removing a thumb drive?
Yes I have seen this corruption occur on thumb drives , its a damn
good idea to use the software tool for ejecting H/ware before
pulling the T drive out.

Even if u don't use the right process to remove the drive and u get
lucky finding ur data is not corrupted THIS time, u may find on
refitting the drive back onto the previously used usb port, that
there is not device found as the association between device and USB
port has become corrupt - fixed by a reboot, or pushing a hardware
detection... sheeeesh Ol thumb drive issues ... yeah they ring a
bell on the memory banks.

Cheers

pluto

---- End of Pluto's post ----

--
dee
From: Sara on
In article <slrnhljcj6.2aq4.jim(a)wotan.magrathea.local>,
Jim <jim(a)magrathea.plus.com> wrote:

> On 2010-01-22, whisky-dave <whisky-dave(a)final.front.ear> wrote:
> >
> > "Jim" <jim(a)magrathea.plus.com> wrote in message
> > news:slrnhlj0d1.22en.jim(a)wotan.magrathea.local...
> >> On 2010-01-22, Woody <usenet(a)alienrat.co.uk> wrote:
> >
> >> when it isn't. It's generally safe to yank it when it's pulsing.
> >
> > Even if you're catholic ;-)
> >
> >> And don't you *dare* quote that out of context..!
> >
> > Doh !
>
> [sigh]
>
> [Note to self: stop doing that.]
>
Doing what?

--
Sara

"It's generally safe to yank it when it's pulsing"
Jim <jim2magrathea.plus.com> UCSM 22/1/10
From: Jim on
On 2010-01-22, Sara <saramerriman(a)blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
>> >
>> >> when it isn't. It's generally safe to yank it when it's pulsing.
>> >
>> > Even if you're catholic ;-)
>> >
>> >> And don't you *dare* quote that out of context..!
>> >
>> > Doh !
>>
>> [sigh]
>>
>> [Note to self: stop doing that.]
>>
> Doing what?
>

[innocent look] Nothing!

Jim
--
http://www.ursaMinorBeta.co.uk http://twitter.com/GreyAreaUK

"Get over here. Now. Might be advisable to wear brown trousers
and a shirt the colour of blood." Malcolm Tucker, "The Thick of It"