How to remount a USB drive
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From: Rowland McDonnell on 22 Jan 2010 09:52 Mike Dee <mikedee(a)emteedee.invalid> wrote: > real-address-in-sig(a)flur.bltigibbet.invalid (Rowland McDonnell) > wrote: [snip] > > But: how do you ensure `safe' unless you unmount? > > That's the only way I know of to be "safe" WRT USB thumb drives. Righto. So these serene assurances I've had that all one needs to do is wait until the light is out - that's bullshit with regards your experience of losing data, is it? [snip illiterate bizarriosity] Rowland. -- Remove the animal for email address: rowland.mcdonnell(a)dog.physics.org Sorry - the spam got to me http://www.mag-uk.org http://www.bmf.co.uk UK biker? Join MAG and the BMF and stop the Eurocrats banning biking
From: James Dore on 22 Jan 2010 09:55 On Fri, 22 Jan 2010 12:59:22 -0000, Jim <jim(a)magrathea.plus.com> wrote: > On 2010-01-22, Rowland McDonnell > <real-address-in-sig(a)flur.bltigibbet.invalid> wrote: >>> >>> It means that on a device marked as removable, information is written >>> as >>> soon as it is available, rather than when it is more efficient to do >>> it, >>> on the basis that it may be removed from the system at any time. >> >> Where is your evidence for this claim? > > Right - I'm using an XP SP3 machine here at work. Opening up 'My > Computer' > and right-clicking on a drive (any drive) gives a menu, the last item of > which is 'Properties'. > > Clicking this gives you a window with several tabs, one of which is > 'Hardware'. > > Clicking this gives you a list of all the drives connected to the > machine, > plus an entry for USB devices. > > Selecting the USB Device entry I then get another properties window with > a > few tabs, one of which is 'Policies'. > > Choosing this gives you a two-item radio-button selector screen. It looks > like this: > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > (*) Optimize for quick removal > This setting disables write caching on the disk and in Windows, so > you can disconnect this device without using the Safe Removal > icon. > > ( ) Optimize for performance > This setting enables write caching in Windows to improve disk > performance. To disconnect this device from the computer, click > the Safely Remove Hardware icon in the taskbar notification area. > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > > I've never altered this setting, so the default for USB drives appears > to be > 'write caching is disabled'. > > Jim Here it is under Windows 7: http://www.new.ox.ac.uk/~james/w7.png and for a USB stick: http://www.new.ox.ac.uk/~james/w7usb.png (there is a missing step: Once you've clicked properties button in the 'Removeable Disk (E:) Properties window, Click the 'Change Settings' button. The window containing it disappears when you click it.) Cheers, -- James Dore New College IT Officer james.dore(a)new / it-support(a)new
From: T i m on 22 Jan 2010 10:16 On 22 Jan 2010 15:31:49 +0100, Mike Dee <mikedee(a)emteedee.invalid> wrote: >---- Pluto's post ---- > > >Even if u don't use the right process to remove the drive and u get >lucky finding ur data is not corrupted THIS time, u may find on >refitting the drive back onto the previously used usb port, that >there is not device found as the association between device and USB >port has become corrupt - fixed by a reboot, or pushing a hardware >detection... sheeeesh Ol thumb drive issues ... yeah they ring a >bell on the memory banks. > Whist I agree all that is entirely possible (or even probable in some cases) it isn't what I have experienced over many years, machines, OS's and many devices. In fact, it's only on rare occasions I come across anyone else who uses the official 'eject' function (again, mainly on Windows boxes here), those who do seem (ironically) to be the ones who aren't very familiar with 'computers' and are only doing so because it complained at some point. [1] But then I use an electric drill chuck key while the thing is still plugged in and turned on because I know to keep away from the trigger while I'm doing so. The Mrs was helping me and did similar and it nearly broke her wrist). ;-( A touch of 'don't do what I do" ... Cheers, T i m [1] Mate runs a PC repair shop and is *constantly* moving data from machine to machine with a pocket full of various size and age pen drives. I have never, ever seen him eject a drive. I have however seen him wait and watch *before* he pulls the drive. Cheers, T i m
From: Rowland McDonnell on 22 Jan 2010 10:25 T i m <news(a)spaced.me.uk> wrote: [snip] > Whist I agree all that is entirely possible (or even probable in some > cases) it isn't what I have experienced over many years, machines, > OS's and many devices. But Mike Dee has experienced it, and so have others reporting. That'll do me. I've met people who've got away with all sorts of dodgy stuff. Well, if I give 'em half a chance, gremlins clobber me badly. I don't do it the dodgy way whatever `it' is because of that. I get clobbered, if anyone's going to get clobbered. People get clobbered this way, so I will be, so... [snip] Rowland. -- Remove the animal for email address: rowland.mcdonnell(a)dog.physics.org Sorry - the spam got to me http://www.mag-uk.org http://www.bmf.co.uk UK biker? Join MAG and the BMF and stop the Eurocrats banning biking
From: whisky-dave on 22 Jan 2010 11:03
"Rowland McDonnell" <real-address-in-sig(a)flur.bltigibbet.invalid> wrote in message news:1jcpwx4.4y0q5h1bsh57vN%real-address-in-sig(a)flur.bltigibbet.invalid... >T i m <news(a)spaced.me.uk> wrote: > > [snip] > >> Just as I have been using knives before HSE put "This is sharp and >> could cut you" stickers on them and not hurt myself that often. > > The HSE says that it is totally unneccessary to put a notice on a knife > explaining that it's sharp and might cut you. That seems reasonable, but a maker of knives might do, in the same way I see packets of peanuts labled "contains nuts" > > The HSE also says that it wishes people would stop doing that sort of > thing because it makes their life near-impossible due to idiots like you > mis-attributing the fault and thus ending up with contempt for the > *real* H&S requirements. Maybe the HSE needs a speacil logo to say it's a genuine warning. > Please do stop libelling the HSE. We seem to be forgeting that the HSE and H&S aren't the same. > The sort of stupidity you mention above is something the HSE is trying > to put an end to. good luck to 'em |