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From: Jim on 22 Jan 2010 11:07 On 2010-01-22, whisky-dave <whisky-dave(a)final.front.ear> wrote: >> >> The HSE says that it is totally unneccessary to put a notice on a knife >> explaining that it's sharp and might cut you. > > That seems reasonable, but a maker of knives might do, in the same way > I see packets of peanuts labled "contains nuts" Which is odd, as they're actually legumes. Jim -- http://www.ursaMinorBeta.co.uk http://twitter.com/GreyAreaUK "Get over here. Now. Might be advisable to wear brown trousers and a shirt the colour of blood." Malcolm Tucker, "The Thick of It"
From: T i m on 22 Jan 2010 11:46 On Fri, 22 Jan 2010 15:25:47 +0000, real-address-in-sig(a)flur.bltigibbet.invalid (Rowland McDonnell) wrote: >T i m <news(a)spaced.me.uk> wrote: > >[snip] > >> Whist I agree all that is entirely possible (or even probable in some >> cases) it isn't what I have experienced over many years, machines, >> OS's and many devices. > >But Mike Dee has experienced it, and so have others reporting. I've experienced it but what difference does that make. You may have had food poisoning at some point but does that mean you never eat that food again (and I know some people don't). Or never ride a motorbike again because you came off once? > >That'll do me. And that's fine. I'm not advocating anyone should risk anything. There is a proper / slower way, please carry on doing it that way. > >I've met people who've got away with all sorts of dodgy stuff. Well, if >I give 'em half a chance, gremlins clobber me badly. I don't do it the >dodgy way whatever `it' is because of that. I get clobbered, if >anyone's going to get clobbered. People get clobbered this way, so I >will be, so... Ah, so if you are saying *you* daren't risk it because of *your* luck then that's fine. Some of us may just be luckier [1]. ;-) Cheers, T i m [1] But as I've said before, it's little to do with luck and more to do with an understanding of what you are doing.
From: Peter Ceresole on 22 Jan 2010 11:54 whisky-dave <whisky-dave(a)final.front.ear> wrote: > but I guess it depends on the particular employer > and employee. Too damn right. H&S rules have been developed because of the unbelievably callous and harmful behaviour, over a very long period, of *some* (not all) employers. And employees... I've filmed on sites where it was absolutely clear that workers should be wearing goggles and masks, for their own protection. The foremen told me that the men wouldn't do so even when instructed. After H&S legislation was introduced, it forced the employers to get serious... -- Peter
From: Rowland McDonnell on 22 Jan 2010 11:57 Jim <jim(a)magrathea.plus.com> wrote: > whisky-dave <whisky-dave(a)final.front.ear> wrote: > >> > >> The HSE says that it is totally unneccessary to put a notice on a knife > >> explaining that it's sharp and might cut you. > > > > That seems reasonable, but a maker of knives might do, in the same way > > I see packets of peanuts labled "contains nuts" Exactly so - it's not the HSE that's the problem and it's not H&S law that's the problem, it's the idiots getting it wrong that are the problem. And there is a problem - but caused by a failure to understand the point of health and safety, not by the actual health and safety culture at all. It's caused by paranoid moronic middle management culture and cancerous compensation culture and such other aspects of `modern life'. > Which is odd, as they're actually legumes. Legumes which just appen to be associated with causing the sorts of allergies caused by real nuts... Legumes which are so much like nuts that they're even called `pea /nuts/' so you get the idea... Rowland. -- Remove the animal for email address: rowland.mcdonnell(a)dog.physics.org Sorry - the spam got to me http://www.mag-uk.org http://www.bmf.co.uk UK biker? Join MAG and the BMF and stop the Eurocrats banning biking
From: Rowland McDonnell on 22 Jan 2010 12:09
T i m <news(a)spaced.me.uk> wrote: > real-address-in-sig(a)flur.bltigibbet.invalid (Rowland McDonnell) wrote: > > >T i m <news(a)spaced.me.uk> wrote: > > > >[snip] > > > >> Whist I agree all that is entirely possible (or even probable in some > >> cases) it isn't what I have experienced over many years, machines, > >> OS's and many devices. > > > >But Mike Dee has experienced it, and so have others reporting. > > I've experienced it but what difference does that make. <shrug> So you know it's problematic. Seems stupid of you to do it the high risk way. > You may have > had food poisoning at some point but does that mean you never eat that > food again (and I know some people don't). Or never ride a motorbike > again because you came off once? <puzzled> No, in both cases I simply take the normal sensible precautions to obviate the risks. As I do with computer data storage. > >That'll do me. > > And that's fine. I'm not advocating anyone should risk anything. There > is a proper / slower way, please carry on doing it that way. I'll do what I do regardless of the opinions of others. I always have done. Some might be shocked to read that... ;-) > >I've met people who've got away with all sorts of dodgy stuff. Well, if > >I give 'em half a chance, gremlins clobber me badly. I don't do it the > >dodgy way whatever `it' is because of that. I get clobbered, if > >anyone's going to get clobbered. People get clobbered this way, so I > >will be, so... > > Ah, so if you are saying *you* daren't risk it because of *your* luck > then that's fine. Some of us may just be luckier [1]. ;-) Tim, you want to unplug without unmounting, you go ahead. But don't whinge when I point out it's stupid - which I do because I'm just a bit worried that some here might think that your example is a sensible one to follow... > Cheers, T i m > > [1] But as I've said before, it's little to do with luck and more to > do with an understanding of what you are doing. And as I've pointed out, that's not merely wrong but also a patronising insult. Rowland. -- Remove the animal for email address: rowland.mcdonnell(a)dog.physics.org Sorry - the spam got to me http://www.mag-uk.org http://www.bmf.co.uk UK biker? Join MAG and the BMF and stop the Eurocrats banning biking |