From: TOG on
On 21 May, 11:05, Tim Streater <timstrea...(a)waitrose.com> wrote:

> Real PoS those are. But according to the folks on
> microsoft.public.mac.office.word (who understand they're a pain for
> those who've used Word before), newbies do better with it.

I'm a newbie (well, to Office on Windows) and I don't.
From: Adrian on
chris <ithinkiam(a)gmail.com> gurgled happily, sounding much like they were
saying:

>> <g>
>> Ctrl+Esc and Alt+Tab do different things, though - and it was the
>> former that sounded closer to TOG's intention.

> Oh, I know. Ctrl+Esc is the task manager, isn't it?

<fires up XP machine for a change>
Blimey, it's clearly been a while for me...

Alt+Tab is what I was thinking of.

Ctrl+Esc is basically just the Windows key, giving the start menu.

So which is the combo that I thought was Alt+Tab...? <shrugs, wanders
off, muttering to self>
From: Paul Grayson on
On May 21, 10:15 am, Chris Ridd <chrisr...(a)mac.com> wrote:

> I had to use Windows/386 a bit, which Wikipedia reckons was Windows
> 2.1. 1.0 must have been *really* bad.

I found some Windows 1.0 floppies in a cupboard at work in the
mid-1990s, and gave it a try just for curiosity's sake. There was
little in the way of applications provided with it, so I was limited
as to what I could do with it. It was also restricted to supporting
the kinds of hardware that was current at the time, so video was
restricted to the old EGA specification of 640x350x16 at best.

The user interface was pretty clunky, and had many restrictions,
including the inability to have overlapping Windows. It was really
nothing more than an attempt to produce an equivalent of Digital
Research's GEM environment.

Windows 2 improved things someone, and actually had decent
applications written for it.
From: Elliott Roper on
In article <timstreater-3DD73E.11052121052010(a)news.individual.net>, Tim
Streater <timstreater(a)waitrose.com> wrote:

> >
> > So, you like the 'ribbons' then? ;-)
>
> Real PoS those are. But according to the folks on
> microsoft.public.mac.office.word (who understand they're a pain for
> those who've used Word before), newbies do better with it. Go figure.
>
> And, it would seem, the ribbons are coming to a version of Office near
> *you*. So I got Office Mac 2008 which is still old-style and is
> Intel-native. No plans to move from that.

Yebbut Yebbut! That's the ones /left/ on
microsoft.public.mac.office.word.

Whole heaps of the regulars, like me, just walked away from the whole
product as well as the newsgroup. I turned in my MVP badge in sheer
horror.

Office 2008 is utterly broken anyway. I keep an old 2004 for the rare
document that Pages or Numbers can't handle. Y'know, like VBA macros
they threw out with the bathwater in 2008?

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From: Woody on
On 21/05/2010 11:12, Andy Hewitt wrote:
> Jim<jim(a)magrathea.plus.com> wrote:
>
>> On 2010-05-21, TOG(a)Toil<totallydeadmailbox(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>>> On 21 May, 10:07, thewildro...(a)me.com (Andy Hewitt) wrote:
>>>
>>>> So, you like the 'ribbons' then? ;-)
>>>>
>>>
>>> Huh? The what?
>>
>> It's a new interface design they're using for modern versions of Office.
>>
>> Looks a bit like this:
>> <http://i.msdn.microsoft.com/Cc872782.Ribbon01(en-us,MSDN.10).png>
>>
>> It's very much a 'love it or loath it' type thing. I'm firmly in the 'loath
>> it' camp.
>
> Yeah, it's one of those things that just didn't need fixing, IMHO.

I am in the unique 'I don't mind it' catagory.

But then I don't use office much, and when I do I use the 10% that is
easy enough to get from the ribbon!


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