I hate sodding Windows XP and I hate PCs
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From: Andy Hewitt on 21 May 2010 09:07 Bruce Horrocks <07.013(a)scorecrow.com> wrote: > On 21/05/2010 10:15, Chris Ridd wrote: > >> Erm, Windows came out in 1985, but was really rubbish - did anyone > >> actually use V1.0? > > > > I had to use Windows/386 a bit, which Wikipedia reckons was Windows 2.1. > > 1.0 must have been *really* bad. > > I had the joy, once, of spending about 3 weeks trying to see if it was > possible to program a GUI interface to the relational database that we > were using at the time. The machine was a Compaq stuffed with *2MBytes* > of extended memory, which was 'awesome' for the time. Needless to say it > never worked - something to do with the RDBMS drivers expecting to be in > High Memory and Windows shifting the drivers out of there into extended > memory and then failing to emulate it properly, or some such. Oh the > pleasures of developing under DOS. I remember putting an extra 2MB into my Atari ST (I got the kit from Evesham that added to the 512K, giving 2.5MB in total), that required a new memory management chip, and some soldering onto the motherboard. Mind you, once installed it did just work, and appeared as 2.5MB of RAM to the system. -- Andy Hewitt <http://web.me.com/andrewhewitt1/>
From: Chris Ridd on 21 May 2010 09:15 On 2010-05-21 14:04:14 +0100, Andy Hewitt said: > Woody <usenet(a)alienrat.co.uk> wrote: > >> On 21/05/2010 11:12, Andy Hewitt wrote: >>> Jim<jim(a)magrathea.plus.com> wrote: > [..] >>> Yeah, it's one of those things that just didn't need fixing, IMHO. >> >> I am in the unique 'I don't mind it' catagory. >> >> But then I don't use office much, and when I do I use the 10% that is >> easy enough to get from the ribbon! > > I find I either use the 2% that was in the old toolbar, or I need > something obscure that's not in any of the toolbars/ribbons. I'm baffled that people need toolbar buttons to do things like copy/paste, or even save/print. The keyboard shortcuts for these have been pretty standard for 20 or so years, haven't they? -- Chris
From: Woody on 21 May 2010 09:16 On 21/05/2010 14:07, Andy Hewitt wrote: > Bruce Horrocks<07.013(a)scorecrow.com> wrote: > >> On 21/05/2010 10:15, Chris Ridd wrote: >>>> Erm, Windows came out in 1985, but was really rubbish - did anyone >>>> actually use V1.0? >>> >>> I had to use Windows/386 a bit, which Wikipedia reckons was Windows 2.1. >>> 1.0 must have been *really* bad. >> >> I had the joy, once, of spending about 3 weeks trying to see if it was >> possible to program a GUI interface to the relational database that we >> were using at the time. The machine was a Compaq stuffed with *2MBytes* >> of extended memory, which was 'awesome' for the time. Needless to say it >> never worked - something to do with the RDBMS drivers expecting to be in >> High Memory and Windows shifting the drivers out of there into extended >> memory and then failing to emulate it properly, or some such. Oh the >> pleasures of developing under DOS. > > I remember putting an extra 2MB into my Atari ST (I got the kit from > Evesham that added to the 512K, giving 2.5MB in total), that required a > new memory management chip, and some soldering onto the motherboard. > > Mind you, once installed it did just work, and appeared as 2.5MB of RAM > to the system. I hand installed mine. Ie, it was PC memory, so I hand wired it to the board in kynar wire. Worked in the end! -- Woody
From: chris on 21 May 2010 09:19 I'm surprised I haven't seen T I M in this thread? Hmmm....
From: Andy Hewitt on 21 May 2010 09:59
Chris Ridd <chrisridd(a)mac.com> wrote: > On 2010-05-21 14:04:14 +0100, Andy Hewitt said: > > > I find I either use the 2% that was in the old toolbar, or I need > > something obscure that's not in any of the toolbars/ribbons. > > I'm baffled that people need toolbar buttons to do things like > copy/paste, or even save/print. The keyboard shortcuts for these have > been pretty standard for 20 or so years, haven't they? Well, yes, they're not the ones I use in fact. Mind you, I still keep trying to hit Command-C etc. -- Andy Hewitt <http://web.me.com/andrewhewitt1/> |