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From: Jim Yanik on 27 Dec 2009 20:47 Anssi Saari <as(a)sci.fi> wrote in news:vg3y6kof84n.fsf(a)pepper.modeemi.cs.tut.fi: > Vladimir Vassilevsky <nospam(a)nowhere.com> writes: > >> If he was a terrorist, that plane won't land. He is just another >> amateur madman. > > Yes, at least the NY Times said the guy was in the bathroom for 20 > minutes, presumably tinkering with his bomb, then went back to his > seat to set it off. Can't imagine why, makes more sense to set it off > in the bathroom. they want to detonate close to the wings,where the fuel tanks are,to damage the wing structure and ignite the fuel vapors. IIRC,they already had one guy blow out a lavatory in flight,not much damage,plane landed safely. > Well, maybe he forgot to bring something to the > bathroom? > >> However, it is a good question why amateurs started causing so much >> trouble. amateurs are less likely to be on watch lists. (not that it was any impediment to this guy...) But it's appearing that he does have some connection to al-Qaida in Yemen. Yemen is turning out to be the newest "Afghanistan",lair of A-Q. > > Maybe it's just copycatting? Like the failed attempt at a follow-up in > London Underground with bombs that didn't work? > -- Jim Yanik jyanik at localnet dot com
From: Jim Yanik on 27 Dec 2009 20:55 RFI-EMI-GUY <Rhyolite(a)NETTALLY.COM> wrote in news:4b37d52e$0$4863$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com: > David L. Jones wrote: >> snip >> >> I got busted by the NYPD trying to take the worlds smallest swiss >> army knife on to Liberty Island, tucked away in my bag. >> They said they could hold it for me until I got back, at which point >> it would be destroyed in front of me! >> The only other option I was given was to go hide it in the park first >> and rejoin the line, or take a hike. I took the hike. >> I asked if I was allowed to carry the knife on the streets of NY, >> "Yes Sir, that's fine. But you can't take it to Liberty Island" >> >> That sealed it for me, Yanks are complete and utter nutters! >> >> Dave. >> > > Maybe they watched too many Crocodile Dundee movies? > > Same thing happened to me at the airport on Long Island. I had a tiny > Swiss Army Knife tucked into my shaving kit. The blade was smaller > than what is on my razor (which was permitted). The X-ray screener > found it and searched the bag for it. I will say that the TA folks at > LI are on their toes. > > It has gotten to the point where you can't carry anything sharp > anymore and there has been "serious" discussion as to banning boy > scouts from carrying knives. Its not looking good for future > generations. > > you have to remember that the 9-11 hijackers used BOX CUTTERS,which don't have very long blades either.I've got a box cutter that is very thin and compact,uses a regular single-edge razor blade.A screener might not recognize it for what it really is. I prefer Archie Bunker's solution; hand out handguns to everyone aboard;when the bad guys stand up and attack,everyone else draws and shoots them full of holes. (actually,to allow those ODCs -with concealed carry permits- to carry aboard AC;they already know the laws concerning shooting,have shown some level of competency with a gun,and have amassed an exemplary record of safety and lawfulness.They have shown themselves to NOT be any problem.) ODC= ordinary decent citizen -- Jim Yanik jyanik at localnet dot com
From: David L. Jones on 28 Dec 2009 02:48 RFI-EMI-GUY wrote: > David L. Jones wrote: >> snip >> >> I got busted by the NYPD trying to take the worlds smallest swiss >> army knife on to Liberty Island, tucked away in my bag. >> They said they could hold it for me until I got back, at which point >> it would be destroyed in front of me! >> The only other option I was given was to go hide it in the park >> first and rejoin the line, or take a hike. I took the hike. >> I asked if I was allowed to carry the knife on the streets of NY, >> "Yes Sir, that's fine. But you can't take it to Liberty Island" >> >> That sealed it for me, Yanks are complete and utter nutters! >> >> Dave. >> > > Maybe they watched too many Crocodile Dundee movies? > > Same thing happened to me at the airport on Long Island. I had a tiny > Swiss Army Knife tucked into my shaving kit. The blade was smaller > than what is on my razor (which was permitted). The X-ray screener > found it and searched the bag for it. I will say that the TA folks at > LI are on their toes. > > It has gotten to the point where you can't carry anything sharp > anymore and there has been "serious" discussion as to banning boy > scouts from carrying knives. Its not looking good for future > generations. We have a ridiculous law against carrying knives here in Australia, they bought it in quite a few years ago. Almost anything with a blade is banned in theory, even the smallest keyring swiss army knife. But the exemptions are: 1) Work purposes 2) Sport 3) If you are a knife collector 4) For peeling fruit and my favourite 5) "Religous purposes"! So if I get busted with my swiss army knife in my pocket I just say I'm on my way to work while geocaching (sport), I have a collection (I do actually), I just ate some peeled fruit, and the flying spaghetti monster said I must carry one. I'm covered on all five counts, it's up to them to prove otherwise :-P Dave. -- --------------------------------------------- Check out my Electronics Engineering Video Blog & Podcast: http://www.eevblog.com
From: David L. Jones on 28 Dec 2009 06:04 mpm wrote: > On Dec 26, 8:03 pm, PeterD <pet...(a)hipson.net> wrote: >> On Sat, 26 Dec 2009 14:45:25 -0800, John Larkin >> >> <jjlar...(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote: >> >>> http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/27/us/27security.html >> >>> So a guy tried to detonate a bomb during the last hour of a flight. >>> The TSA morons thus conclude that all terrorists detonate their >>> bombs in the last hour, so make it illegal to get out of your seat >>> during those 60 minutes. >> >> I coudl be wrong, but I don't think he got out of his seat to do it, >> and as well, neither did the previous failure, either. >> >>> They are clearly assuming that the bombers are >>> dumber than they are; I have my doubts. >> >>> The real issue is why they let a Nigerian, festooned with >>> explosives, on a terrorist watch list, onto the plane in the first >>> place. >> >> See where the flight came from... >> >>> I >>> suppose searching people who look like they might be terrorists >>> would be "profiling" or "invasion or privacy" or something. >> >>> They did give my 90-year old father a full, very rude pull-aside >>> screening because he had a one-way ticket out of Louisiana after >>> Katrina. I once got super-harassed and triple searched because my >>> ticket had a "payment basis" of "A", and nobody knew what "A" >>> meant. I think it meant American Express. >> >>> (If they search you three times, they seem to be assuming that the >>> first two searches were incompetant.) >> >> Well, actually they probably were, but then again, so probably was >> the third... >> >> >> >> >> >>> Idiots. Always fighting the last battle. >> >>> John- Hide quoted text - >> >> - Show quoted text - > > I heard on FOX News that some "former government official" said his > seat choice was no accident - it was near the fuel tank. Oh, you mean the Fox News owned by Rupert Murdoch. The same Fox News that spins every story far right to help ensure that the poor hapless Americans stay perpetually scared of this so called threat of "terrorism"? They do a good job, don't they! George.W and cronies would be proud. Ah, America, the only place were it's always Nineteen Eighty-Four Dave. -- --------------------------------------------- Check out my Electronics Engineering Video Blog & Podcast: http://www.eevblog.com
From: Jan Panteltje on 28 Dec 2009 06:53
On a sunny day (Sun, 27 Dec 2009 19:55:24 -0600) it happened Jim Yanik <jyanik(a)abuse.gov> wrote in <Xns9CEED514B6872jyaniklocalnetcom(a)216.168.3.44>: >I prefer Archie Bunker's solution; >hand out handguns to everyone aboard;when the bad guys stand up and >attack,everyone else draws and shoots them full of holes. I am not sure how well a plane would take some stray bullets... remember the movie 'Goldfinger'? |