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From: Dirk Bruere at NeoPax on 28 Dec 2009 10:54 Jan Panteltje wrote: > On a sunny day (Sat, 26 Dec 2009 16:05:56 -0800 (PST)) it happened JeffM > <jeffm_(a)email.com> wrote in > <78ae5df1-3f3f-4231-aa20-6c1ac7cb5dc1(a)z4g2000prh.googlegroups.com>: > >> Jan Panteltje wrote: >>> Well, he mixed the explosives in flight it seems >>> >> I doubt it. > > It was in the news that he used a syringe to inject stuff into the stuff he had taped to his body. What horrifies me is that an engineering graduate from a top UK university can't even make a decent bomb. -- Dirk http://www.transcendence.me.uk/ - Transcendence UK http://www.theconsensus.org/ - A UK political party http://www.blogtalkradio.com/onetribe - Occult Talk Show
From: Dirk Bruere at NeoPax on 28 Dec 2009 10:55 Robert Baer wrote: > Adrian C wrote: >> John Larkin wrote: >> >>> The real issue is why they let a Nigerian, festooned with explosives, >>> on a terrorist watch list, onto the plane in the first place. I >>> suppose searching people who look like they might be terrorists would >>> be "profiling" or "invasion or privacy" or something. >> >> Seen the walk-in explosive detectors they have around the Statue of >> Liberty exhibit? The type that puff your clothes and work out the >> composition of your last spray of beauty product. >> >> They don't have those in many airports yet. Maybe they should.... >> >> >> But I have a cheaper alternative. >> >> A chamber constructed of a few tons of reinforced concrete and lead is >> placed just after the departure gate. Each passenger walks through it, >> one at a time, and is quickly subjected to various EMC and other >> stimuli that would naturally set off their explosive device if >> carrying. The innocent pass through unscathed, and the miscreants >> would be immediately caught and dealt with. >> >> Oh, where is that Patent brief.... >> > ..THAT solution is tooooo simple for government types... And after all the pacemakers have exploded and metal fillings in people's teeth turned red hot... -- Dirk http://www.transcendence.me.uk/ - Transcendence UK http://www.theconsensus.org/ - A UK political party http://www.blogtalkradio.com/onetribe - Occult Talk Show
From: Dirk Bruere at NeoPax on 28 Dec 2009 11:00 YD wrote: > Late at night, by candle light, John Larkin > <jjlarkin(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> penned this immortal > opus: > >> >> http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/27/us/27security.html >> >> So a guy tried to detonate a bomb during the last hour of a flight. >> The TSA morons thus conclude that all terrorists detonate their bombs >> in the last hour, so make it illegal to get out of your seat during >> those 60 minutes. They are clearly assuming that the bombers are >> dumber than they are; I have my doubts. >> >> The real issue is why they let a Nigerian, festooned with explosives, >> on a terrorist watch list, onto the plane in the first place. I >> suppose searching people who look like they might be terrorists would >> be "profiling" or "invasion or privacy" or something. >> >> They did give my 90-year old father a full, very rude pull-aside >> screening because he had a one-way ticket out of Louisiana after >> Katrina. I once got super-harassed and triple searched because my >> ticket had a "payment basis" of "A", and nobody knew what "A" meant. I >> think it meant American Express. >> >> (If they search you three times, they seem to be assuming that the >> first two searches were incompetant.) >> >> Idiots. Always fighting the last battle. >> >> John >> > > The guy, Abdullah bin Whatever, is really a stooge for the security > companies. Since nothing serious has been happening the last couple of > years and there have been doubts over the whole rigmarole, they got > afraid of business slackening off and stirred the pot a bit. On the whole conspiracy thing, I wonder how many AQ cells are actually CIA run in order to sweep up the wannabes and get them to set their balls on fire in mid flight. -- Dirk http://www.transcendence.me.uk/ - Transcendence UK http://www.theconsensus.org/ - A UK political party http://www.blogtalkradio.com/onetribe - Occult Talk Show
From: John Larkin on 28 Dec 2009 12:08 On Mon, 28 Dec 2009 15:54:22 +0000, Dirk Bruere at NeoPax <dirk.bruere(a)gmail.com> wrote: >Jan Panteltje wrote: >> On a sunny day (Sat, 26 Dec 2009 16:05:56 -0800 (PST)) it happened JeffM >> <jeffm_(a)email.com> wrote in >> <78ae5df1-3f3f-4231-aa20-6c1ac7cb5dc1(a)z4g2000prh.googlegroups.com>: >> >>> Jan Panteltje wrote: >>>> Well, he mixed the explosives in flight it seems >>>> >>> I doubt it. >> >> It was in the news that he used a syringe to inject stuff into the stuff he had taped to his body. > >What horrifies me is that an engineering graduate from a top UK >university can't even make a decent bomb. Perhaps his degree was in Computer Science. Jon
From: Jim Yanik on 28 Dec 2009 13:02
PeterD <peter2(a)hipson.net> wrote in news:2kchj5ptl0si10folbr9k0stm04bo9him2(a)4ax.com: > On Mon, 28 Dec 2009 11:53:36 GMT, Jan Panteltje ><pNaonStpealmtje(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > >>On a sunny day (Sun, 27 Dec 2009 19:55:24 -0600) it happened Jim Yanik >><jyanik(a)abuse.gov> wrote in >><Xns9CEED514B6872jyaniklocalnetcom(a)216.168.3.44>: >> >>>I prefer Archie Bunker's solution; >>>hand out handguns to everyone aboard;when the bad guys stand up and >>>attack,everyone else draws and shoots them full of holes. >> >> >>I am not sure how well a plane would take some stray bullets... >>remember the movie 'Goldfinger'? > > They do just fine... Don't confuse movies with real life. Many planes > have been 'shot full of holes' and none have crashed from > decompression... > dozens of holes,and the cabin pressure regulator would just close up a little bit,it's huge compared to 0.5" bullet holes.People probably would not even notice a pressure drop. Witness that Aloha flight that lost a fair part of it's skin and still landed with only one casualty;an unbelted flight attendant who got sucked out when the skin peeled back. all the really important stuff has backup systems,and is UNDER the passenger deck,while bullets would be flying in the horizontal plane. and the odds of hitting and actually damaging anything critical are TINY.Don't forget that there's all sorts of baggage and shipping under there,too. I can't recall how many people have tried to use the "explosive decompression" fallacy to support their position! ;-) Besides,then why did authorities begin using Sky Marshals with handguns loaded with Speer Gold Dot JHP ammo?(they know they might have to shoot THRU a seat back or bulkhead.) Once it's well known that armed people are aboard,then the chances of successful hijacking are too low and thus are not attempted.Terrorists move on to softer targets. You can get armed people -at no expense- if you allow ODCs with carry permits to fly with their weapons. Maybe after an extra class on airplane defense. What authorities are loathe to admit is that FEW flights in the US actually have Marshalls -on board-,there's too few to cover the 25,000 daily flights. -- Jim Yanik jyanik at localnet dot com |