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From: Dirk Bruere at NeoPax on 28 Dec 2009 13:55 Jan Panteltje wrote: > On a sunny day (Mon, 28 Dec 2009 15:54:22 +0000) it happened Dirk Bruere at > NeoPax <dirk.bruere(a)gmail.com> wrote in <7ps2ldFom7U2(a)mid.individual.net>: > >> Jan Panteltje wrote: >>> On a sunny day (Sat, 26 Dec 2009 16:05:56 -0800 (PST)) it happened JeffM >>> <jeffm_(a)email.com> wrote in >>> <78ae5df1-3f3f-4231-aa20-6c1ac7cb5dc1(a)z4g2000prh.googlegroups.com>: >>> >>>> Jan Panteltje wrote: >>>>> Well, he mixed the explosives in flight it seems >>>>> >>>> I doubt it. >>> It was in the news that he used a syringe to inject stuff into the stuff he had taped to his body. >> What horrifies me is that an engineering graduate from a top UK >> university can't even make a decent bomb. > > Well, not enough practice lessons I guess:-) The rumor is that the HE was PETN. Why he would want to inject some other chemical, given its already adequate sensitivity, is beyond me. And if someone gave me that mix, I would at least want to test some of it beforehand. -- Dirk http://www.transcendence.me.uk/ - Transcendence UK http://www.theconsensus.org/ - A UK political party http://www.blogtalkradio.com/onetribe - Occult Talk Show
From: PeterD on 28 Dec 2009 16:07 On Mon, 28 Dec 2009 18:08:34 GMT, Jan Panteltje <pNaonStpealmtje(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >On a sunny day (Mon, 28 Dec 2009 08:29:12 -0500) it happened PeterD ><peter2(a)hipson.net> wrote in <2kchj5ptl0si10folbr9k0stm04bo9him2(a)4ax.com>: > >>On Mon, 28 Dec 2009 11:53:36 GMT, Jan Panteltje >><pNaonStpealmtje(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >> >>>On a sunny day (Sun, 27 Dec 2009 19:55:24 -0600) it happened Jim Yanik >>><jyanik(a)abuse.gov> wrote in <Xns9CEED514B6872jyaniklocalnetcom(a)216.168.3.44>: >>> >>>>I prefer Archie Bunker's solution; >>>>hand out handguns to everyone aboard;when the bad guys stand up and >>>>attack,everyone else draws and shoots them full of holes. >>> >>> >>>I am not sure how well a plane would take some stray bullets... >>>remember the movie 'Goldfinger'? >> >>They do just fine... Don't confuse movies with real life. Many planes >>have been 'shot full of holes' and none have crashed from >>decompression... > >Actually, come to think of it, there have been several fatal crashes due to decompression. >One big one was IIRC a DC10 that had the cargo door pop out, the pressure difference broke the floor, >ripped the control cables routed in that floor, and it crashed. Yes, but that was not a bullet hole. I guess I wasn't as clear as I should have been. >There also was not so long ago a small private jet, it depressurised, the crew got unconscious, >it kept flying on auto pilot until it ran out of fuel and crashed. The golfer, forget his name... Something went terribly wrong, but the plane didn't suffer catestrophic damage until it fell victim to the effects of gravity... >Then a year or 2 ago a Greek plane decompressed and crashed with all passengers aboard. >I am sure there are zillion more cases. Again, the plane was basically flyable, but the crew was not! But if we go back to the original point, that a bullet hole will cause a plane to explode because it is pressurized, I think we can safely dismiss that is very, very unlikely, based on previous experience with bullet hole riddled aircraft. You would have to hit something vital to the functioning of the aircraft, such as a non-redundant power source. And non-redundant, critical things on aircrafts are not common. But... It sure looks good in the movies!!! <g>
From: PeterD on 28 Dec 2009 16:08 On Mon, 28 Dec 2009 09:05:27 -0600, Vladimir Vassilevsky <nospam(a)nowhere.com> wrote: > > >PeterD wrote: > >> Consider this, both Ried <sp?> and this latest lunatic failed >> completely--one would think they'd get the message: "I don't want you >> blowing up or killing innocent people..." -- God. > >That raises another question: if plane bombing is really such big of an >issue. How many planes were blown? How it compares to hijacks, >accidents, etc? > >VLV How can we know? In most cases they well might be unexplained, especially if over water. But we do know it has happened, at least one time.
From: PeterD on 28 Dec 2009 16:11 On Mon, 28 Dec 2009 12:07:16 -0600, Jim Yanik <jyanik(a)abuse.gov> wrote: >PeterD <peter2(a)hipson.net> wrote in >news:5mchj511rd1qmeoerbjn3rqsig41av2reh(a)4ax.com: >>> >> Consider this, both Ried <sp?> and this latest lunatic failed >> completely--one would think they'd get the message: "I don't want you >> blowing up or killing innocent people..." -- God. >> > >THEY failed,but the next guy may not. >They DID succeed in getting their bombs on board,and "detonating" them. > >LUCKILY,their bombs didn't work. Just good LUCK. > >But searching old ladies and making everyone go thru lengthy lines is >ridiculous;they need to PROFILE and closely search the most likely >suspects. WHat is worrysome is that there are few if any ways to 'test' for explosives such as this... Personaly I think that we should all be required to fly in the nude, with NO carryon baggage allowed. That would resolve so many things, eliminate virtualliy all risks... A simple metal detector for internal metal would suffice. Next we'll be seeing bombs either swallowed or surgically implanted.
From: Jan Panteltje on 28 Dec 2009 17:28
On a sunny day (Mon, 28 Dec 2009 16:07:39 -0500) it happened PeterD <peter2(a)hipson.net> wrote in <m97ij5d0fm7fh4j8tj74mbave2lapks226(a)4ax.com>: > >But if we go back to the original point, that a bullet hole will cause >a plane to explode because it is pressurized, I do not think tha tever was the original point. Not even in Goldfinger. |