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From: RFI-EMI-GUY on 27 Dec 2009 16:06 Adrian C wrote: > John Larkin wrote: > >> The real issue is why they let a Nigerian, festooned with explosives, >> on a terrorist watch list, onto the plane in the first place. I >> suppose searching people who look like they might be terrorists would >> be "profiling" or "invasion or privacy" or something. > > Seen the walk-in explosive detectors they have around the Statue of > Liberty exhibit? The type that puff your clothes and work out the > composition of your last spray of beauty product. > > They don't have those in many airports yet. Maybe they should.... > > > But I have a cheaper alternative. > > A chamber constructed of a few tons of reinforced concrete and lead is > placed just after the departure gate. Each passenger walks through it, > one at a time, and is quickly subjected to various EMC and other stimuli > that would naturally set off their explosive device if carrying. The > innocent pass through unscathed, and the miscreants would be immediately > caught and dealt with. > > Oh, where is that Patent brief.... > I like your idea, of course, it would have to have instant wash down and flush cycle between "incidents" so as not to unduly delay boarding. Also it would "turn off" all those annoying "PED's" folks bring on board as well! -- Joe Leikhim K4SAT "The RFI-EMI-GUY"� "Use only Genuine Interocitor Parts" Tom Servo ;-P
From: Jim Thompson on 27 Dec 2009 16:43 On Sun, 27 Dec 2009 22:56:56 +0200, Anssi Saari <as(a)sci.fi> wrote: >Vladimir Vassilevsky <nospam(a)nowhere.com> writes: > >> If he was a terrorist, that plane won't land. He is just another >> amateur madman. > >Yes, at least the NY Times said the guy was in the bathroom for 20 >minutes, presumably tinkering with his bomb, then went back to his >seat to set it off. Can't imagine why, makes more sense to set it off >in the bathroom. Well, maybe he forgot to bring something to the >bathroom? > >> However, it is a good question why amateurs started causing so much >> trouble. > >Maybe it's just copycatting? Like the failed attempt at a follow-up in >London Underground with bombs that didn't work? What's scary is the possibility that several passengers, over several flights of the same plane, manage to carry on and stash components to build a bomb in the john :-( Why was he in the john for 20 minutes? There has to be some way to dispose of these Islamists that prevents them from entering their "heaven" and getting all those virgins (*) .... Boil them to death in pork fat ?:-) (*) What good is a virgin... I want a "cougar" ;-) ...Jim Thompson -- | James E.Thompson, CTO | mens | | Analog Innovations, Inc. | et | | Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus | | Phoenix, Arizona 85048 Skype: Contacts Only | | | Voice:(480)460-2350 Fax: Available upon request | Brass Rat | | E-mail Icon at http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 | Help save the environment! Please dispose of socialism responsibly!
From: RFI-EMI-GUY on 27 Dec 2009 16:44 David L. Jones wrote: > snip > > I got busted by the NYPD trying to take the worlds smallest swiss army knife > on to Liberty Island, tucked away in my bag. > They said they could hold it for me until I got back, at which point it > would be destroyed in front of me! > The only other option I was given was to go hide it in the park first and > rejoin the line, or take a hike. I took the hike. > I asked if I was allowed to carry the knife on the streets of NY, "Yes Sir, > that's fine. But you can't take it to Liberty Island" > > That sealed it for me, Yanks are complete and utter nutters! > > Dave. > Maybe they watched too many Crocodile Dundee movies? Same thing happened to me at the airport on Long Island. I had a tiny Swiss Army Knife tucked into my shaving kit. The blade was smaller than what is on my razor (which was permitted). The X-ray screener found it and searched the bag for it. I will say that the TA folks at LI are on their toes. It has gotten to the point where you can't carry anything sharp anymore and there has been "serious" discussion as to banning boy scouts from carrying knives. Its not looking good for future generations. -- Joe Leikhim K4SAT "The RFI-EMI-GUY"� "Use only Genuine Interocitor Parts" Tom Servo ;-P
From: Jan Panteltje on 27 Dec 2009 16:59 On a sunny day (Sun, 27 Dec 2009 16:44:17 -0500) it happened RFI-EMI-GUY <Rhyolite(a)NETTALLY.COM> wrote in <4b37d52e$0$4863$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com>: >David L. Jones wrote: >> snip >> >> I got busted by the NYPD trying to take the worlds smallest swiss army knife >> on to Liberty Island, tucked away in my bag. >> They said they could hold it for me until I got back, at which point it >> would be destroyed in front of me! >> The only other option I was given was to go hide it in the park first and >> rejoin the line, or take a hike. I took the hike. >> I asked if I was allowed to carry the knife on the streets of NY, "Yes Sir, >> that's fine. But you can't take it to Liberty Island" >> >> That sealed it for me, Yanks are complete and utter nutters! >> >> Dave. >> > >Maybe they watched too many Crocodile Dundee movies? > >Same thing happened to me at the airport on Long Island. I had a tiny >Swiss Army Knife tucked into my shaving kit. The blade was smaller than >what is on my razor (which was permitted). The X-ray screener found it >and searched the bag for it. I will say that the TA folks at LI are on >their toes. > >It has gotten to the point where you can't carry anything sharp anymore >and there has been "serious" discussion as to banning boy scouts from >carrying knives. Its not looking good for future generations. Yup, had to turn in my swiss knife too, asked if they could keep it for when I returmed, but they said it would all be destroyed. Such a waste of a good tool. Wonder what is next, ballpen? pencils? hairpins? I think I will no longer fly, seems if you are on the toilet too long they arrest you too these days :-) Maybe those big cruises from Europe to America? Takes longer, but more freedom and entertainment. OTOH on some everybody got sick from something I did read. > >-- >Joe Leikhim K4SAT >"The RFI-EMI-GUY"� > >"Use only Genuine Interocitor Parts" Tom Servo ;-P >
From: Spehro Pefhany on 27 Dec 2009 17:58
On Sat, 26 Dec 2009 23:05:02 +0000, the renowned Adrian C <email(a)here.invalid> wrote: >John Larkin wrote: > >> The real issue is why they let a Nigerian, festooned with explosives, >> on a terrorist watch list, onto the plane in the first place. I >> suppose searching people who look like they might be terrorists would >> be "profiling" or "invasion or privacy" or something. > >Seen the walk-in explosive detectors they have around the Statue of >Liberty exhibit? The type that puff your clothes and work out the >composition of your last spray of beauty product. > >They don't have those in many airports yet. Maybe they should.... > > >But I have a cheaper alternative. > >A chamber constructed of a few tons of reinforced concrete and lead is >placed just after the departure gate. Each passenger walks through it, >one at a time, and is quickly subjected to various EMC and other stimuli >that would naturally set off their explosive device if carrying. The >innocent pass through unscathed, and the miscreants would be immediately >caught and dealt with. Of course that would not have prevented a single incident so far, but it might generate handsome income for the companies mfg them. There are many such opportunities around when almost unlimited US-government funds are available (don't ask). Some of them will work some of the time, but most assume that the adversary is stupid or sloppy, which stretches my sense of ethics. You'd almost never be able to set off a high explosive with anything that wouldn't kill the passengers, which pretty much defeats the purpose. It's possible to hide >1kg of very stable high explosives in body cavities. That's enough to bring down a plane, if removed and placed well. They are not easy to detonate- allegedly high explosives were used (carefully) for cooking fuel during the Vietnam war. But I suppose the detonator could be similarly hidden. I suspect this "aspirational" al-Qaeda knucklehead didn't have the detonator working properly, as his PETN seemed to burn well enough. Countermeasures? Ultrasounds have been used to detect kg size loads of drugs inside people. Imagine picking up your luggage with lube smeared all over your lower regions, and you're not even coming back from a "conference" in SFO... Or just equip every plane with the next best thing to Rambo-- Dutch filmmaker Jasper Schuringa, hero of the day, who can fly through the air and tackle bad guys from across aisles and save the meek folks cowering in their seats. >Oh, where is that Patent brief.... Best regards, Spehro Pefhany -- "it's the network..." "The Journey is the reward" speff(a)interlog.com Info for manufacturers: http://www.trexon.com Embedded software/hardware/analog Info for designers: http://www.speff.com |