From: David L. Jones on
Adrian C wrote:
> John Larkin wrote:
>
>> The real issue is why they let a Nigerian, festooned with explosives,
>> on a terrorist watch list, onto the plane in the first place. I
>> suppose searching people who look like they might be terrorists would
>> be "profiling" or "invasion or privacy" or something.
>
> Seen the walk-in explosive detectors they have around the Statue of
> Liberty exhibit? The type that puff your clothes and work out the
> composition of your last spray of beauty product.

I got busted by the NYPD trying to take the worlds smallest swiss army knife
on to Liberty Island, tucked away in my bag.
They said they could hold it for me until I got back, at which point it
would be destroyed in front of me!
The only other option I was given was to go hide it in the park first and
rejoin the line, or take a hike. I took the hike.
I asked if I was allowed to carry the knife on the streets of NY, "Yes Sir,
that's fine. But you can't take it to Liberty Island"

That sealed it for me, Yanks are complete and utter nutters!

Dave.

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From: TheM on
"Vladimir Vassilevsky" <nospam(a)nowhere.com> wrote in message news:DNSdncaUjKVWM6vWnZ2dnUVZ_rCdnZ2d(a)giganews.com...
>> John Larkin wrote:
>> Idiots. Always fighting the last battle.
>
> BTW, during the Soviet war in Afganistan in 80x, there was no single terrorist attack on Russian land or Russian vessels.

Yes, and just how many tourists were coming to USSR during that time daily?
And how many were allowed to travel abroad?

They don't have terrorists in North Korea either.

M


From: Jan Panteltje on
On a sunny day (Sat, 26 Dec 2009 16:05:56 -0800 (PST)) it happened JeffM
<jeffm_(a)email.com> wrote in
<78ae5df1-3f3f-4231-aa20-6c1ac7cb5dc1(a)z4g2000prh.googlegroups.com>:

>
>Jan Panteltje wrote:
>>Well, he mixed the explosives in flight it seems
>>
>I doubt it.

It was in the news that he used a syringe to inject stuff into the stuff he had taped to his body.
From: YD on
Late at night, by candle light, John Larkin
<jjlarkin(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> penned this immortal
opus:

>
>
>http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/27/us/27security.html
>
>So a guy tried to detonate a bomb during the last hour of a flight.
>The TSA morons thus conclude that all terrorists detonate their bombs
>in the last hour, so make it illegal to get out of your seat during
>those 60 minutes. They are clearly assuming that the bombers are
>dumber than they are; I have my doubts.
>
>The real issue is why they let a Nigerian, festooned with explosives,
>on a terrorist watch list, onto the plane in the first place. I
>suppose searching people who look like they might be terrorists would
>be "profiling" or "invasion or privacy" or something.
>
>They did give my 90-year old father a full, very rude pull-aside
>screening because he had a one-way ticket out of Louisiana after
>Katrina. I once got super-harassed and triple searched because my
>ticket had a "payment basis" of "A", and nobody knew what "A" meant. I
>think it meant American Express.
>
>(If they search you three times, they seem to be assuming that the
>first two searches were incompetant.)
>
>Idiots. Always fighting the last battle.
>
>John
>

The guy, Abdullah bin Whatever, is really a stooge for the security
companies. Since nothing serious has been happening the last couple of
years and there have been doubts over the whole rigmarole, they got
afraid of business slackening off and stirred the pot a bit.

- YD.
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From: Anssi Saari on
Vladimir Vassilevsky <nospam(a)nowhere.com> writes:

> If he was a terrorist, that plane won't land. He is just another
> amateur madman.

Yes, at least the NY Times said the guy was in the bathroom for 20
minutes, presumably tinkering with his bomb, then went back to his
seat to set it off. Can't imagine why, makes more sense to set it off
in the bathroom. Well, maybe he forgot to bring something to the
bathroom?

> However, it is a good question why amateurs started causing so much
> trouble.

Maybe it's just copycatting? Like the failed attempt at a follow-up in
London Underground with bombs that didn't work?