From: BillW50 on
In news:h95ud5$i9$1(a)news.eternal-september.org,
Ben Myers typed on Sun, 20 Sep 2009 15:05:07 -0400:
> Happy Oyster wrote:
>> On Sun, 20 Sep 2009 12:15:37 -0500, "BillW50" <BillW50(a)aol.kom>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> In news:mqncb5l1vj7g93cngbjorvgab7nkt9ku3o(a)4ax.com,
>>> Happy Oyster typed on Sun, 20 Sep 2009 19:01:56 +0200:
>>>> It is not wise to take apart a working machine just to switch to
>>>> another OS, because an OS can installed on the HDD and it is only a
>>>> matter of some key-clicks to make the transition from one of the
>>>> installed OSes to an other.
>>> It depends on the machine. Some machines it is very easy to swap
>>> drives in and out. And I do it all of the time. And I never had a
>>> single problem yet. Great for verifying that your backups *really*
>>> can restore without touching the original drive. Or playing around
>>> with another OS, or hacking away with your current OS and not
>>> worrying about corrupting anything. Beta testing, etc. It is really
>>> great, you should try it on machines that this is made easy.
>>
>> Srewing up a machine is easy. To repair it, not.
>>
>> A lot of computer have parts, which are made to break when the
>> computer is taken apart. Laymen do not know about the construction
>> of these traps, and it is not wise to take such risks.
>
> Well spoken wisdom, Jedi!
>
> I've found that manufacturers' laptop service manuals explain all the
> traps. I've had no problem taking apart a laptop if I have a good
> service manual. Usually that means Dells and Lenovos (IBMs) are easy
> to repair. HPaq laptops would be easy to repair if the designs
> weren't so damned complicated, as I can generally find service
> manuals for them. HPaq laptops do not have built in traps, just
> inordinately complicated disassembly-assembly, and really really
> really flimsy plastic parts.
>
> So any layman who wants to repair his/her own laptop should consider
> doing so if he/she has the right service manual, a small flat-headed
> screw driver and a small Philips head screwdriver. Otherwise, no.
>
> ... Ben Myers

Oh give me a break! I am not talking about total disassembly. I am
talking about a tiny trap door on the bottom of the netbook/laptop.
Geez!

--
Bill
Windows 2000 SP4 (5.00.2195)
Asus EEE PC 701G4 ~ 2GB RAM ~ 16GB-SDHC


From: Happy Oyster on
On Sun, 20 Sep 2009 14:14:47 -0500, "BillW50" <BillW50(a)aol.kom> wrote:

>Oh give me a break! I am not talking about total disassembly. I am
>talking about a tiny trap door on the bottom of the netbook/laptop.
>Geez!

There is none! The whole bottom plate must be taken off. The bottom part of the
enclosure has several plastic springs and one has to be an octopus to press them
all simultaneously...
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From: BillW50 on
In news:540db55omrds2ng7ejllp6iss7sna01i2s(a)4ax.com,
Happy Oyster typed on Sun, 20 Sep 2009 21:24:16 +0200:
> On Sun, 20 Sep 2009 14:14:47 -0500, "BillW50" <BillW50(a)aol.kom> wrote:
>
>> Oh give me a break! I am not talking about total disassembly. I am
>> talking about a tiny trap door on the bottom of the netbook/laptop.
>> Geez!
>
> There is none! The whole bottom plate must be taken off. The bottom
> part of the enclosure has several plastic springs and one has to be
> an octopus to press them all simultaneously...

That is yours, not true of mine. <vbg>

--
Bill
Windows 2000 SP4 (5.00.2195)
Asus EEE PC 701G4 ~ 2GB RAM ~ 16GB-SDHC


From: RnR on
On Sun, 20 Sep 2009 13:38:58 -0500, "BillW50" <BillW50(a)aol.kom> wrote:

>In news:gopcb5dcntj3fstggflgo9ur29gq9n897n(a)4ax.com,
>RnR typed on Sun, 20 Sep 2009 12:39:50 -0500:
>> On Sun, 20 Sep 2009 12:15:37 -0500, "BillW50" <BillW50(a)aol.kom> wrote:
>>
>>> In news:mqncb5l1vj7g93cngbjorvgab7nkt9ku3o(a)4ax.com,
>>> Happy Oyster typed on Sun, 20 Sep 2009 19:01:56 +0200:
>>>> It is not wise to take apart a working machine just to switch to
>>>> another OS, because an OS can installed on the HDD and it is only a
>>>> matter of some key-clicks to make the transition from one of the
>>>> installed OSes to an other.
>>>
>>> It depends on the machine. Some machines it is very easy to swap
>>> drives in and out. And I do it all of the time. And I never had a
>>> single problem yet. Great for verifying that your backups *really*
>>> can restore without touching the original drive. Or playing around
>>> with another OS, or hacking away with your current OS and not
>>> worrying about corrupting anything. Beta testing, etc. It is really
>>> great, you should try it on machines that this is made easy.
>>
>> Prefer to use vmware to do this.... no swapping, easy to recreate
>> drives(i have xp and win7 drives currently). Cost isn't really a
>> factor since both cost (vmware vs. hd). The thing that sells me on
>> YOUR idea is "safety" not testing. All drives fail eventually so I
>> like the idea of having a spare drive.
>
>Sounds nice. But isn't there performance and hardware issues?


I haven't noticed any issues on my older core2duo E1405 laptop. I've
multitasked in xp with no issues at all. Of course there are some
system requirements but they appear to be modest by today's standards.
I am running now with 2gb ram in this laptop.
http://pubs.vmware.com/ws65_ace25/ws_user/wwhelp/wwhimpl/common/html/wwhelp.htm?context=ws_user&file=intro_sysreqs_ws.html
From: BillW50 on
In news:3r3db5hikmll45md8opomf4c3kqkju136v(a)4ax.com,
RnR typed on Sun, 20 Sep 2009 15:25:06 -0500:
> On Sun, 20 Sep 2009 13:38:58 -0500, "BillW50" <BillW50(a)aol.kom> wrote:
>
>> In news:gopcb5dcntj3fstggflgo9ur29gq9n897n(a)4ax.com,
>> RnR typed on Sun, 20 Sep 2009 12:39:50 -0500:
>>> On Sun, 20 Sep 2009 12:15:37 -0500, "BillW50" <BillW50(a)aol.kom>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> In news:mqncb5l1vj7g93cngbjorvgab7nkt9ku3o(a)4ax.com,
>>>> Happy Oyster typed on Sun, 20 Sep 2009 19:01:56 +0200:
>>>>> It is not wise to take apart a working machine just to switch to
>>>>> another OS, because an OS can installed on the HDD and it is only
>>>>> a matter of some key-clicks to make the transition from one of the
>>>>> installed OSes to an other.
>>>>
>>>> It depends on the machine. Some machines it is very easy to swap
>>>> drives in and out. And I do it all of the time. And I never had a
>>>> single problem yet. Great for verifying that your backups *really*
>>>> can restore without touching the original drive. Or playing around
>>>> with another OS, or hacking away with your current OS and not
>>>> worrying about corrupting anything. Beta testing, etc. It is really
>>>> great, you should try it on machines that this is made easy.
>>>
>>> Prefer to use vmware to do this.... no swapping, easy to recreate
>>> drives(i have xp and win7 drives currently). Cost isn't really a
>>> factor since both cost (vmware vs. hd). The thing that sells me on
>>> YOUR idea is "safety" not testing. All drives fail eventually so I
>>> like the idea of having a spare drive.
>>
>> Sounds nice. But isn't there performance and hardware issues?
>
>
> I haven't noticed any issues on my older core2duo E1405 laptop. I've
> multitasked in xp with no issues at all. Of course there are some
> system requirements but they appear to be modest by today's standards.
> I am running now with 2gb ram in this laptop.
>
http://pubs.vmware.com/ws65_ace25/ws_user/wwhelp/wwhimpl/common/html/wwhelp.htm?context=ws_user&file=intro_sysreqs_ws.html

There was a time I needed to run different OS, but that was along time
ago. I do compare versions from time to time, but I use multiple
computers sometimes too. For example, I have 4 laptops and 4 netbooks
right here at my desk. So I don't know what vmware would do for me,
except using up more disk space. See what I mean?

--
Bill
Windows 2000 SP4 (5.00.2195)
Asus EEE PC 701G4 ~ 2GB RAM ~ 16GB-SDHC