From: Happy Oyster on 20 Sep 2009 12:13 On Sun, 20 Sep 2009 09:51:00 -0500, "BillW50" <BillW50(a)aol.kom> wrote: >In news:h5abb5dbn06aeib7l29dr2cha4hhdhl4dg(a)4ax.com, >Happy Oyster typed on Sun, 20 Sep 2009 06:01:45 +0200: >> On Sat, 19 Sep 2009 23:53:28 -0400, Ben Myers <ben_myers(a)charter.net> >> wrote: >> >>>>> There is a really simple solution to a Windows-Linux dual boot >>>>> problem. Two hard drives... Ben Myers >>>> >>>> IF you are able to install a second drive. But in a netbook you do >>>> not have this choice. >> >>> Sure you have a choice. Remove one drive and pop in a second one... >>> Ben >> >> I am only talking about the things built-in. > >Why are you buying non-removable drives in netbooks and then complaining >about them? I have two Asus EeePC 702 and I swap out the SSD drives all >of the time. And each one has a different OS on them. Well, if one turns out the screw at the bottom part of the computer, one finds that there are PLASTIC springs, which are very fragile. The springs have to be bent that the bottom cover can be taken off. After the bottom cover is taken off, the HDD can be exchanged. Do exchange a HDD EACH TIME brings the high risk of breaking one or more of the plastic springs. Also, I would like to mention, that it is not very wise to exchange disks whilst out of the house. At least, I asssume, the ordinary user does not carry his workshop equipment with him to take apart his computer. To say more about that would go beyond satire... -- "Syrer besetzten die St�dte, frevelten dort um die Wette. Wollten von Jahwe nichts wissen, wurden von L�wen zerrissen." http://www.reimbibel.de
From: BillW50 on 20 Sep 2009 12:26 In news:etkcb5t8a64hsfekdomv5lueer7fe5vr47(a)4ax.com, Happy Oyster typed on Sun, 20 Sep 2009 18:13:13 +0200: > On Sun, 20 Sep 2009 09:51:00 -0500, "BillW50" <BillW50(a)aol.kom> wrote: > >> In news:h5abb5dbn06aeib7l29dr2cha4hhdhl4dg(a)4ax.com, >> Happy Oyster typed on Sun, 20 Sep 2009 06:01:45 +0200: >>> On Sat, 19 Sep 2009 23:53:28 -0400, Ben Myers >>> <ben_myers(a)charter.net> wrote: >>> >>>>>> There is a really simple solution to a Windows-Linux dual boot >>>>>> problem. Two hard drives... Ben Myers >>>>> >>>>> IF you are able to install a second drive. But in a netbook you do >>>>> not have this choice. >>> >>>> Sure you have a choice. Remove one drive and pop in a second >>>> one... Ben >>> >>> I am only talking about the things built-in. >> >> Why are you buying non-removable drives in netbooks and then >> complaining about them? I have two Asus EeePC 702 and I swap out the >> SSD drives all of the time. And each one has a different OS on them. > > Well, if one turns out the screw at the bottom part of the computer, > one finds that there are PLASTIC springs, which are very fragile. The > springs have to be bent that the bottom cover can be taken off. > > After the bottom cover is taken off, the HDD can be exchanged. > > Do exchange a HDD EACH TIME brings the high risk of breaking one or > more of the plastic springs. Also, I would like to mention, that it > is not very wise to exchange disks whilst out of the house. At least, > I asssume, the ordinary user does not carry his workshop equipment > with him to take apart his computer. > > To say more about that would go beyond satire... So what kind of netbook is this? My Asus 702s can easily be changed over and over again. I would guess it should be able to handle 100,000 changes or more. Takes about 30 seconds. My Gateway laptops, I can swap hard drives in less than 5 seconds. As I have spare carriers and I leave the screws out. I could leave the screws out of my netbooks too (and the trap door stays put well without screws) and then they can be swapped out much faster too. -- Bill Windows 2000 SP4 (5.00.2195) Asus EEE PC 701G4 ~ 2GB RAM ~ 16GB-SDHC
From: Happy Oyster on 20 Sep 2009 13:01 On Sun, 20 Sep 2009 11:26:50 -0500, "BillW50" <BillW50(a)aol.kom> wrote: >In news:etkcb5t8a64hsfekdomv5lueer7fe5vr47(a)4ax.com, >Happy Oyster typed on Sun, 20 Sep 2009 18:13:13 +0200: >> On Sun, 20 Sep 2009 09:51:00 -0500, "BillW50" <BillW50(a)aol.kom> wrote: >> >>> In news:h5abb5dbn06aeib7l29dr2cha4hhdhl4dg(a)4ax.com, >>> Happy Oyster typed on Sun, 20 Sep 2009 06:01:45 +0200: >>>> On Sat, 19 Sep 2009 23:53:28 -0400, Ben Myers >>>> <ben_myers(a)charter.net> wrote: >>>> >>>>>>> There is a really simple solution to a Windows-Linux dual boot >>>>>>> problem. Two hard drives... Ben Myers >>>>>> >>>>>> IF you are able to install a second drive. But in a netbook you do >>>>>> not have this choice. >>>> >>>>> Sure you have a choice. Remove one drive and pop in a second >>>>> one... Ben >>>> >>>> I am only talking about the things built-in. >>> >>> Why are you buying non-removable drives in netbooks and then >>> complaining about them? I have two Asus EeePC 702 and I swap out the >>> SSD drives all of the time. And each one has a different OS on them. >> >> Well, if one turns out the screw at the bottom part of the computer, >> one finds that there are PLASTIC springs, which are very fragile. The >> springs have to be bent that the bottom cover can be taken off. >> >> After the bottom cover is taken off, the HDD can be exchanged. >> >> Do exchange a HDD EACH TIME brings the high risk of breaking one or >> more of the plastic springs. Also, I would like to mention, that it >> is not very wise to exchange disks whilst out of the house. At least, >> I asssume, the ordinary user does not carry his workshop equipment >> with him to take apart his computer. >> >> To say more about that would go beyond satire... > >So what kind of netbook is this? My Asus 702s can easily be changed over >and over again. I would guess it should be able to handle 100,000 >changes or more. Takes about 30 seconds. My Gateway laptops, I can swap >hard drives in less than 5 seconds. As I have spare carriers and I leave >the screws out. I could leave the screws out of my netbooks too (and the >trap door stays put well without screws) and then they can be swapped >out much faster too. It is not wise to take apart a working machine just to switch to another OS, because an OS can installed on the HDD and it is only a matter of some key-clicks to make the transition from one of the installed OSes to an other. -- "Syrer besetzten die St�dte, frevelten dort um die Wette. Wollten von Jahwe nichts wissen, wurden von L�wen zerrissen." http://www.reimbibel.de
From: BillW50 on 20 Sep 2009 13:15 In news:mqncb5l1vj7g93cngbjorvgab7nkt9ku3o(a)4ax.com, Happy Oyster typed on Sun, 20 Sep 2009 19:01:56 +0200: > It is not wise to take apart a working machine just to switch to > another OS, because an OS can installed on the HDD and it is only a > matter of some key-clicks to make the transition from one of the > installed OSes to an other. It depends on the machine. Some machines it is very easy to swap drives in and out. And I do it all of the time. And I never had a single problem yet. Great for verifying that your backups *really* can restore without touching the original drive. Or playing around with another OS, or hacking away with your current OS and not worrying about corrupting anything. Beta testing, etc. It is really great, you should try it on machines that this is made easy. -- Bill Windows 2000 SP4 (5.00.2195) Asus EEE PC 701G4 ~ 2GB RAM ~ 16GB-SDHC
From: RnR on 20 Sep 2009 13:39
On Sun, 20 Sep 2009 12:15:37 -0500, "BillW50" <BillW50(a)aol.kom> wrote: >In news:mqncb5l1vj7g93cngbjorvgab7nkt9ku3o(a)4ax.com, >Happy Oyster typed on Sun, 20 Sep 2009 19:01:56 +0200: >> It is not wise to take apart a working machine just to switch to >> another OS, because an OS can installed on the HDD and it is only a >> matter of some key-clicks to make the transition from one of the >> installed OSes to an other. > >It depends on the machine. Some machines it is very easy to swap drives >in and out. And I do it all of the time. And I never had a single >problem yet. Great for verifying that your backups *really* can restore >without touching the original drive. Or playing around with another OS, >or hacking away with your current OS and not worrying about corrupting >anything. Beta testing, etc. It is really great, you should try it on >machines that this is made easy. Prefer to use vmware to do this.... no swapping, easy to recreate drives(i have xp and win7 drives currently). Cost isn't really a factor since both cost (vmware vs. hd). The thing that sells me on YOUR idea is "safety" not testing. All drives fail eventually so I like the idea of having a spare drive. |