From: Roger Johansson on

HVS wrote:

> >>> http://www.free-codecs.com/download/phonostar_Player.htm

> > I'll give it a try; thanks for the recommendation.

> Caution: for those who feel strongly about these things, there's a
> twin advert window when the configuration panel is extended out.

Yes, it is an adsupported program, but the adbanner is much less
irritating than the adbanner was in Opera browser, because it is not
visible when you use the program, it is only visible at the bottom of
the settings of stations page.

You can drag the bottom of the station selecting and searching page
down to get a big list, and the adbanner is at the bottom of that page,
an inch high.

After you have selected your favorites, which is very easy in the
stations listings, click on the heart symbol, you only use the program
part of the program, which looks like a like a car radio, and there are
no ads in that part of the program.

If we compare with Winamp you have to go to the shoutcast web site to
search and select your favorites, and there are ad banners and a lot of
other stuff on that web site, but after you have setup a list of
favorites there are no ads or banners in the winamp player program
itself.

Phonostar Player works just like that, but the adbanner in the station
search and select page is less intrusive and visible than the banners
on the shoutcast site, because it is gray and at the bottom of the
stations listings, so I think it is much less disturbing than the
colorful banners and stuff at the top and sides of the shoutcast site.

The station search and select page comes with the program, so you don't
need to use a web browser and go to a certain site like you have to do
with winamp. (Winamp has a built in web browser, by the way, that you
could use to visit the shoutcast web page, which makes winamp work even
more like Phonostar, but I prefer to use a normal browser for the
shoutcast site)

The player program itself has no adbanners, just like the Winamp player
program.

By the way, I discovered that there are other skins available for the
Phonostar Player, but they are so crazy that you need to be 13 years
old to appreciate them, and several of them are only available with
german text.

The default skin is the best for normal people.

After trying it out for hours now I can say that Phonostar gives access
to more stations that Winamp and Screamer together, it is clearly the
best internet radio recorder of these programs. It also has a much
better station search and select part.


--
Roger J.

From: HVS on
On 17 Aug 2006, Roger Johansson wrote

>
> HVS wrote:
>
>>>>> http://www.free-codecs.com/download/phonostar_Player.htm
>
>>> I'll give it a try; thanks for the recommendation.
>
>> Caution: for those who feel strongly about these things,
>> there's a twin advert window when the configuration panel is
>> extended out.
>
> Yes, it is an adsupported program, but the adbanner is much
> less irritating than the adbanner was in Opera browser,
> because it is not visible when you use the program, it is only
> visible at the bottom of the settings of stations page.

Personally, it doesn't bother me at all -- no big deal.

But whilst many of us don't mind, I think it's fair to say that
this group uses a definition of "freeware" which generally excludes
adware, and that one really should mention the ads in the first
post whenever an ad-supported program is recommended.



--
Cheers,
Harvey
From: Roger Johansson on

HVS wrote:
> http://www.free-codecs.com/download/phonostar_Player.htm

> But whilst many of us don't mind, I think it's fair to say that
> this group uses a definition of "freeware" which generally excludes
> adware, and that one really should mention the ads in the first
> post whenever an ad-supported program is recommended.

The player program does not have any adbanners.

Winamp is usually mentioned as freeware in this group, but it's
actually adbanner supported software, did you know that?

When winamp is used as an internet radio it is adsupported software,
and yet I hear no warnings about winamp being adsupported.

So I saw no reason to mention the much less intrusive and much more
discreet adbanner in the stations listing and searching page compared
to what the stations listing and searching page looks like in winamp.

When you actually use the program, after having selected a bunch of
favorite stations it looks just like winamp, no adbanners in sight.

But I understand. If you really need something to nag about and feel
like the warrior of total righteousness this is the chance of your
life, you can go on forever about this.

I have another tip for you, look at the most preferred pdf reader in
this group, Foxit pdf reader. It has some kind of small banner in the
upper right corner, and that adbanner is actually in sight all the
time when you are actually using the program, unlike the adsupport in
Phonostar and Winamp, which is only visible when you are searching and
setting up your favorite radio channels.

See, now you have three big issues to nag about in this group, the
mentioning of Winamp, Foxit pdf reader, and Phonostar. This can make
you a big name in this group, so keep on nagging and reporting and
complaining and arguing and bitching, and feel like a real hero,
because you really are.

You will be admired and remembered forever by a group of supporters for
your neverending struggle against even the smallest of impurities in
the face of your girlfriend, see, there is a little mole there, I can
see it, you are not the perfect beauty, and I'll tell you about it
every day of your life, to show how pure I am and how aware I am of all
little imperfections in everything.


--
Roger J.

From: HVS on
On 18 Aug 2006, Roger Johansson wrote

>
> HVS wrote:
>> http://www.free-codecs.com/download/phonostar_Player.htm
>
>> But whilst many of us don't mind, I think it's fair to say
>> that this group uses a definition of "freeware" which
>> generally excludes adware, and that one really should mention
>> the ads in the first post whenever an ad-supported program is
>> recommended.
>
> The player program does not have any adbanners.
>
> Winamp is usually mentioned as freeware in this group, but
> it's actually adbanner supported software, did you know that?

-snip wild over-reaction to reminder of a distinction between
types of wares-

Yes, I did know that. And Foxit. And DeepBurner. And Opera-as-
was.

And if people were polite instead of rude, they'd mention that
when they recommend these programs.

I don't care at all -- not a bit -- if things are ad-supported or
not. Couldn't care less.

But it's rude not to mention ad banners in a group where the
distinction is made, and bloody rude (not to say stupid) to get
all defensively bolshie whenn reminded of the group's
conventions.

Your touchiness and defensiveness on being reminded of this
suggests that you know you're wrong, but that you're damned if
you're going to admit it.

Have. A. Nice. Life.
From: John Corliss on
Gabriele Neukam wrote:
> On this special day, Duddits wrote:
>
>> I use my Mp3 player
>> (Foobar2000 http://www.foobar2000.org/) to listen but many players such as
>> Winamp will do.
>
> I prefer XMPlay (it works with WinAmp plugins, too), with a rather
> tiny skin, and connect to Soma.FM, which is exactly what I need.

Gabriele,
Which Winamp plugin(s) are you using to do streaming and recording?

TIA

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No ad, cd, commercial, cripple, demo, nag, PROmotion, share, spy,
time-limited or trial wares or warez for me, please.