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From: mmeron on 1 Oct 2006 18:54 In article <c7WdncygLPPv3r3YRVnytQ(a)pipex.net>, "T Wake" <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> writes: > ><mmeron(a)cars3.uchicago.edu> wrote in message >news:foXTg.1$45.124(a)news.uchicago.edu... >> In article <K4XTg.7154$N4.5515(a)clgrps12>, "Homer J Simpson" >> <nobody(a)nowhere.com> writes: >>> >>>"Gordon" <gordonlr(a)DELETEswbell.net> wrote in message >>>news:00c0i29vn31ejl71pku1d0r1nfaevj6p4i(a)4ax.com... >>> >>>>>So you are saying they are NOT better Xtians than everyone else? >>>>> >>>> No, I'm saying that this war on terrorism started long before >>>> President Bush and the present Republican administration was >>>> involved in any way. >>> >>>But it isn't a war. >> >> It is a war. > >Really? So all the "Rules of War" apply then? > The rules of war apply to those who themselves apply the rules of war. >> Refusing to recognize it as such will not make it go >> away. > >Calling it a war legitimizes the terrorists and stops people thinking of >them as criminals who should be punished. For thirty years the British were >terrorized by Irish Republicans, it was never called a "war." I'll say again, it is a war, refusing to recognize it as such will not make it go away. > >The western world bandies the term "war" around much too easily. (War on >Terror, War on Drugs, War on Obesity etc.) > Indeed, quite true. Yet, in this case, it is a real war. Mati Meron | "When you argue with a fool, meron(a)cars.uchicago.edu | chances are he is doing just the same"
From: John Fields on 1 Oct 2006 19:18 On Sun, 01 Oct 2006 22:14:02 GMT, "Homer J Simpson" <nobody(a)nowhere.com> wrote: > >"Gordon" <gordonlr(a)DELETEswbell.net> wrote in message >news:00c0i29vn31ejl71pku1d0r1nfaevj6p4i(a)4ax.com... > >>>So you are saying they are NOT better Xtians than everyone else? >>> >> No, I'm saying that this war on terrorism started long before >> President Bush and the present Republican administration was >> involved in any way. > >But it isn't a war. It is a problem for a police force that requires >international cooperation, something the US is notoriously unable or >unwilling to be involved in. --- I see. You think that we've isolated ourselves and that we're pursuing a strictly military solution to the problem. You are insane. -- John Fields Professional Circuit Designer
From: Homer J Simpson on 1 Oct 2006 19:28 <mmeron(a)cars3.uchicago.edu> wrote in message news:tGXTg.2$45.154(a)news.uchicago.edu... > Indeed, quite true. Yet, in this case, it is a real war. What is the uniform of the other side and how do you distinguish them from the non combatants? -- In 1209, Pope Innocent III launched an armed crusade against Albigenses Christians in southern France. When the besieged city of Beziers fell, soldiers reportedly asked their papal adviser how to distinguish the faithful from the infidel among the captives. He commanded: "Kill them all. God will know his own." Nearly 20,000 were slaughtered -- many first blinded, mutilated, dragged behind horses, or used for target practice.
From: Eeyore on 1 Oct 2006 19:32 mmeron(a)cars3.uchicago.edu wrote: > "Homer J Simpson" <nobody(a)nowhere.com> writes: > >"Gordon" <gordonlr(a)DELETEswbell.net> wrote in message > > > >>>So you are saying they are NOT better Xtians than everyone else? > >>> > >> No, I'm saying that this war on terrorism started long before > >> President Bush and the present Republican administration was > >> involved in any way. > > > >But it isn't a war. > > It is a war. Refusing to recognize it as such will not make it go > away. It's not a meaningful war since the 'enemy' isn't an identifiable entity but a 'view'. Graham
From: Eeyore on 1 Oct 2006 19:36
John Fields wrote: > On Sun, 01 Oct 2006 22:14:02 GMT, "Homer J Simpson" wrote: > >"Gordon" <gordonlr(a)DELETEswbell.net> wrote > > > >> No, I'm saying that this war on terrorism started long before > >> President Bush and the present Republican administration was > >> involved in any way. > > > >But it isn't a war. It is a problem for a police force that requires > >international cooperation, something the US is notoriously unable or > >unwilling to be involved in. > > --- > I see. You think that we've isolated ourselves and that we're > pursuing a strictly military solution to the problem. It looks pretty military to me for sure. Graham |