From: Gordon on 1 Oct 2006 17:24 On Sun, 01 Oct 2006 21:10:22 GMT, "Homer J Simpson" <nobody(a)nowhere.com> wrote: >>>Same purpose as the Republicans starting wars then blaming everything on >>>the war. > >"Gordon" <gordonlr(a)DELETEswbell.net> wrote in message >news:r980i2h3pr3evtr03c34k0lmghqgd5a4re(a)4ax.com... > >> The Holy Bible, King James Version >> >> Exodus 20:16 Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy >> neighbour. >> >> Deuteronomy 5:20 Neither shalt thou bear false witness against >> thy neighbour. > >... > >So you are saying they are NOT better Xtians than everyone else? > No, I'm saying that this war on terrorism started long before President Bush and the present Republican administration was involved in any way. How long should we have "turned the other cheek?" 1979 Nov. 4, Tehran, Iran: Iranian radical students seized the U.S. embassy, taking 66 hostages. Fourteen were later released. The remaining 52 were freed after 444 days, on the day of President Reagan's inauguration. 1982-1991 Lebanon: Thirty US and other Western hostages kidnapped in Lebanon by Hezbollah. Some were killed, some died in captivity, and some were eventually released. Terry Anderson was held for 2,454 days. 1983 April 18, Beirut, Lebanon: U.S. embassy destroyed in suicide car-bomb attack; 63 dead, including 17 Americans. The Islamic Jihad claimed responsibility. 1983 Oct. 23, Beirut, Lebanon: Shiite suicide bombers exploded truck near U.S. military barracks at Beirut airport, killing 241 Marines. Minutes later a second bomb killed 58 French paratroopers in their barracks in West Beirut. 1983 Dec. 12, Kuwait City, Kuwait Shiite truck bombers attacked the U.S. embassy and other targets, killing 5 and injuring 80. 1984 Sept. 20, east Beirut, Lebanon: truck bomb exploded outside the U.S. embassy annex, killing 24, including 2 U.S. military. 1984 Dec. 3, Beirut, Lebanon: Kuwait Airways Flight 221, from Kuwait to Pakistan, hijacked and diverted to Tehran. Two Americans killed. 1985 April 12, Madrid, Spain: Bombing at restaurant frequented by U.S. soldiers, killed 18 Spaniards and injured 82. June 14, Beirut, Lebanon: TWA flight 847 en route from Athens to Rome hijacked to Beirut by Hezbollah terrorists and held for 17 days. A U.S. Navy diver executed. 1985 Oct. 7, Mediterranean Sea: gunmen attack Italian cruise ship, Achille Lauro. One U.S. tourist killed. Hijacking linked to Libya. 1985 Dec. 18, Rome, Italy, and Vienna, Austria: airports in Rome and Vienna were bombed, killing 20 people, 5 of whom were Americans. Bombing linked to Libya. 1986 April 2, Athens, Greece:A bomb exploded aboard TWA flight 840 en route from Rome to Athens, killing 4 Americans and injuring 9. 1986 April 5, West Berlin, Germany: Libyans bombed a disco frequented by U.S. servicemen, killing 2 and injuring hundreds. 1988 Dec. 21, Lockerbie, Scotland: N.Y.-bound Pan-Am Boeing 747 exploded in flight from a terrorist bomb and crashed into Scottish village, killing all 259 aboard and 11 on the ground. Passengers included 35 Syracuse University students and many U.S. military personnel. Libya formally admitted responsibility 15 years later (Aug. 2003) and offered $2.7 billion compensation to victims' families. 1993 Feb. 26, New York City: bomb exploded in basement garage of World Trade Center, killing 6 and injuring at least 1,040 others. In 1995, militant Islamist Sheik Omar Abdel Rahman and 9 others were convicted of conspiracy charges, and in 1998, Ramzi Yousef, believed to have been the mastermind, was convicted of the bombing. Al-Qaeda involvement is suspected. 1995 April 19, Oklahoma City: car bomb exploded outside federal office building, collapsing wall and floors. 168 people were killed, including 19 children and 1 person who died in rescue effort. Over 220 buildings sustained damage. Timothy McVeigh and Terry Nichols later convicted in the antigovernment plot to avenge the Branch Davidian standoff in Waco, Tex., exactly two years earlier. (See Miscellaneous Disasters.) Nov. 13, Riyadh, Saudi Arabia: car bomb exploded at U.S. military headquarters, killing five U.S. military servicemen. 1996 June 25, Dhahran, Saudi Arabia: truck bomb exploded outside Khobar Towers military complex, killing 19 American servicemen and injuring hundreds of others. Thirteen Saudis and a Lebanese, all alleged members of Islamic militant group Hezbollah, were indicted on charges relating to the attack in June 2001. 1998 Aug. 7, Nairobi, Kenya, and Dar es Salaam, Tanzania: truck bombs exploded almost simultaneously near 2 U.S. embassies, killing 224 (213 in Kenya and 11 in Tanzania) and injuring about 4,500. Four men connected with al-Qaeda two of whom had received training at al-Qaeda camps inside Afghanistan, were convicted of the killings in May 2001 and later sentenced to life in prison. A federal grand jury had indicted 22 men in connection with the attacks, including Saudi dissident Osama bin Laden, who remained at large. 2000 Oct. 12, Aden, Yemen: U.S. Navy destroyer USS Cole heavily damaged when a small boat loaded with explosives blew up alongside it. Seventeen sailors killed. Linked to Osama bin Laden, or members of al-Qaeda terrorist network. 2001 Sept. 11, New York City, Arlington, Va., and Shanksville, Pa.: hijackers crashed two commercial jets into twin towers of World Trade Center; two more hijacked jets were crashed into the Pentagon and a field in rural Pa. Total dead and missing numbered 2,9921: 2,749 in New York City, 184 at the Pentagon, 40 in Pa., and 19 hijackers. Islamic al-Qaeda terrorist group blamed. (See September 11, 2001: Timeline of Terrorism.) 2002 June 14, Karachi, Pakistan: bomb exploded outside American consulate in Karachi, Pakistan, killing 12. Linked to al-Qaeda. 2003 May 12, Riyadh, Saudi Arabia: suicide bombers killed 34, including eight Americans, at housing compounds for Westerners. Al-Qaeda suspected. 2004 May 29-31, Riyadh, Saudi Arabia: terrorists attack the offices of a Saudi oil company in Khobar, Saudi Arabia, take foreign oil workers hostage in a nearby residential compound, leaving 22 people dead including one American. June 11-19, Riyadh, Saudi Arabia: terrorists kidnap and execute Paul Johnson Jr., an American, in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia. Dec. 6, Jiddah, Saudi Arabia: terrorists storm the U.S. consulate killing 5 before being subdued by Saudi securi
From: Homer J Simpson on 1 Oct 2006 18:14 "Gordon" <gordonlr(a)DELETEswbell.net> wrote in message news:00c0i29vn31ejl71pku1d0r1nfaevj6p4i(a)4ax.com... >>So you are saying they are NOT better Xtians than everyone else? >> > No, I'm saying that this war on terrorism started long before > President Bush and the present Republican administration was > involved in any way. But it isn't a war. It is a problem for a police force that requires international cooperation, something the US is notoriously unable or unwilling to be involved in.
From: mmeron on 1 Oct 2006 18:34 In article <K4XTg.7154$N4.5515(a)clgrps12>, "Homer J Simpson" <nobody(a)nowhere.com> writes: > >"Gordon" <gordonlr(a)DELETEswbell.net> wrote in message >news:00c0i29vn31ejl71pku1d0r1nfaevj6p4i(a)4ax.com... > >>>So you are saying they are NOT better Xtians than everyone else? >>> >> No, I'm saying that this war on terrorism started long before >> President Bush and the present Republican administration was >> involved in any way. > >But it isn't a war. It is a war. Refusing to recognize it as such will not make it go away. Mati Meron | "When you argue with a fool, meron(a)cars.uchicago.edu | chances are he is doing just the same"
From: T Wake on 1 Oct 2006 18:38 <mmeron(a)cars3.uchicago.edu> wrote in message news:foXTg.1$45.124(a)news.uchicago.edu... > In article <K4XTg.7154$N4.5515(a)clgrps12>, "Homer J Simpson" > <nobody(a)nowhere.com> writes: >> >>"Gordon" <gordonlr(a)DELETEswbell.net> wrote in message >>news:00c0i29vn31ejl71pku1d0r1nfaevj6p4i(a)4ax.com... >> >>>>So you are saying they are NOT better Xtians than everyone else? >>>> >>> No, I'm saying that this war on terrorism started long before >>> President Bush and the present Republican administration was >>> involved in any way. >> >>But it isn't a war. > > It is a war. Really? So all the "Rules of War" apply then? > Refusing to recognize it as such will not make it go > away. Calling it a war legitimizes the terrorists and stops people thinking of them as criminals who should be punished. For thirty years the British were terrorized by Irish Republicans, it was never called a "war." The western world bandies the term "war" around much too easily. (War on Terror, War on Drugs, War on Obesity etc.)
From: Homer J Simpson on 1 Oct 2006 18:51
"T Wake" <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote in message news:c7WdncygLPPv3r3YRVnytQ(a)pipex.net... > Calling it a war legitimizes the terrorists and stops people thinking of > them as criminals who should be punished. For thirty years the British > were terrorized by Irish Republicans, it was never called a "war." > > The western world bandies the term "war" around much too easily. (War on > Terror, War on Drugs, War on Obesity etc.) It's the Yanks that do that. They like the sound of it. They COULD have a "War on Stupidity" but Bush (and Cheney, Rumsfeld and Rice) would be SO the wrong persons to lead THAT. |