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From: JoeBloe on 11 Nov 2006 11:21 On Sat, 11 Nov 2006 16:01:46 GMT, <lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net> Gave us: > >"JoeBloe" <joebloe(a)thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org> wrote in message >news:4krbl29h7imp8vc91vrkss29r591e1lbtn(a)4ax.com... >> On Sat, 11 Nov 2006 06:39:29 GMT, <lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net> Gave us: >> >>> >>>"JoeBloe" <joebloe(a)thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org> wrote in message >>>news:g1eal2dosisofr40ccnm98kcgi8pbtiar0(a)4ax.com... >>>> >>>> Even Western Digital has its products made and assembled elsewhere, >>>> but it is still an American company. >>> >>>...and what fraction of their workforce would be American? >>> >>>Eric Lucas >>> >> >> >> The up front investiture, hardware product, the profits, the name, >> the quality assurance, the engineering... All the parts that matter. > >Oh, so jobs don't matter to you? > >Eric Lucas > Global Economy. Bone up on it. A Toyota made in a US plant is still a Japanese Toyota product. Likewise, a chip made in Malaysia for Motorola or Texas Instruments is still an American product. Just like WD and Seagate hard drives are still US products with US money paying for the Mfg process, and any profits going to the US constituency.
From: Eeyore on 11 Nov 2006 11:36 jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > lparker(a)emory.edu (Lloyd Parker) wrote: > > jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > >> <lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote: > >>>"Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message > > >>>> What *is* the interest payment on the $30,000 owed by every single > >>>> American ? > >>> > >>>At going rates, the debt service is about $1800/yr/person. That's about > >>>1/8th of the total Federal taxes I pay. I really resent my hard-earned > >>>money being wasted in such a cavalier manner. > >> > >>You think oddly. And yet, you have no problems with them > >>spending most of your tax dollars on medical insurance. > >> > >>/BAH > > > >Because, based on the experience of Canada and Europe, it would SAVE money. > > I won't get started on people's incorrect ideas about "saving". Do please ! Graham
From: Eeyore on 11 Nov 2006 11:39 jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > <lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote: > ><jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message > >> lparker(a)emory.edu (Lloyd Parker) wrote: > >> > >>>What good are the other rights if you're dead? > >> > >> Reread the sentence. They are only talking about insurance > >> being a right, not getting medical care. There is a difference. > > > > > >Well, the difference would be kinda moot to the millions of Americans who do > >not have insurance and cannot afford medical care, now wouldn't it? > > Now think about why they can't afford it. Their wages are too low maybe ? They can't get a better paying job. Other expenses come first out of necessity ? These would be typical reasons. Graham
From: Eeyore on 11 Nov 2006 11:43 jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > Ben Newsam <ben.newsam(a)ukonline.co.uk> wrote: > >On Fri, 10 Nov 2006 15:51:47 GMT, <lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote: > >><jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message > >>> > >>> It is decreasing towards zero as conversion to a few payers > >>> increases. What do you think will happen when the few payers > >>> become one? > >> > >>When that one payer doesn't have the profit motive that's currently driving > >>prices? Everybody will have access. Check out the cost (and I'm talking > >>the total cost to society) and availability of the UK system versus ours. > > > >AFAIAC, the biggest advantage of our (UK) system isn't the quality of > >the service, although it is very good at day to day stuff like mending > >broken bits and plugging leaks, but the peace of mind that comes from > >not having to worry about whether one is covered or not. If you need > >to see a doctor, you go and see a doctor, and if you need treatment, > >you get it. It's as simple as that. Yes, of course the system is > >strapped for cash, and certain treatments and drugs aren't available > >on the National Health, but that will always be the case with whatever > >system is in place, whether public or private. > > And how do you find a doctor? In the phone book ? Or the Internet. http://www.city-visitor.com/stalbans/doctors.html > Are you assigned to a doctor > who has to OK other specialists' services? Your GP ( general practicioner ) will refer you to a specialist if you need one. Once you see the specialist then he/she will determine the course of treatment. > Can you walk into > a cardiologist's office and get treated or do you have to > be "vetted" through a series of physicians' offices and labs > to get to that heart doctor? Just your GP. Graham
From: Eeyore on 11 Nov 2006 11:44
jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > <lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote: > ><jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message. > >> > >> The same thing happened to medical pots of money contributed > >> by employees and their employers. The pool of monies got transformed > >> to insurance companies. > > > > > >Now you're catching on. Private insurance companies have profit motive. > >Government bodies that provide for health care don't. > > Right. There is no competition and no check on 100% corruption. > Most monies will go to patronage, outright stealing and administration > costs. None will end up buying the real service. It doesn't happen. Have you never heard of 'whistle blowers' ? In fact I wouldn't mind betting you'll find corruption in the private sector model. Graham |