From: Michael A. Terrell on 11 Nov 2006 18:16 unsettled wrote: > > Ken Smith wrote: > > > In article <sq15h.3588$IR4.1362(a)newssvr25.news.prodigy.net>, > > <lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote: > > [....] > > > >>I would argue that anybody who is still making minimum wage after any time > >>at all in a job, isn't productive and doesn't deserve to be rewarded. > > > > > > There are some who are working at the limit of their ability. These > > people still deserve enough of a wage to live on. I have, indirectly, > > employed such a person in the past. He showed up for work on time and > > remained for the required time, but instructions to him needed to be made > > without subordinate clauses because he could not parse them. He is never > > going to get promoted into management no matter how hard he works. > > Eeyore works for you? He said the guy could follow simple instructions? Do you think the Donkey can? -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida
From: Eeyore on 11 Nov 2006 18:22 T Wake wrote: > "Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message > > > > From what I've heard of the Griffin case it seems to me that he was being > > critical of Islam. > > Which is reasonable enough. > > > Because (a) he wasn't singling out a group by ethnicity as such and (b) > > because > > I'd hate to see some forms of criticism made illegal, I'm very glad he got > > acquitted. > > I agree. It is a sad day, though, when I find myself hoping a racist bigot > will be let off... They have rights too ! I suspect he was being very careful with his words. Graham
From: unsettled on 11 Nov 2006 18:35 T Wake wrote: > <jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message > news:ej4l1b$8ss_033(a)s977.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com... > >>In article <4555374F.EF500B95(a)hotmail.com>, >> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >> >>> >>>krw wrote: >>> >>> >>>>rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com says... >>>> >>>>>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>Raising the minimum wage is stupid and insane. >>>>> >>>>>Why ? >>>> >>>>Why should the federal government tell anyone what their worth is? >>>> >>>>>I saw it can be a slow as $5 an hour. >>>> >>>>The federal minimum wage is $5.15/hr. Some states are higher >>>>(Vermont is $7.25 and going up). I'm not sure anyone really works >>>>for the minimum (MacD's is advertising $9.00/hr.). >>> >>>So why the fuss over increasing what would seem to be a notional minimum ? >>> >> >>You should notice that Keith is swearing. That is not is usual >>style. I guess he's got the same problems I have. AS minimum >>wage goes skyhigh, so do property taxes, real estate, food, other >>taxes, and other things needed for survival. > > > You both have claimed that "hardly anyone" would work for the minimum wage. > If this is the case, it will have no impact at all. > > As it stands, the evidence in capitalist countries is that increases to the > minimum wage does not cause "everything" to become more expensive. The > advantage of having more people with disposable income, is that they buy > more things. The market is a powerful and resilient beast. > > We could always go back to pre-black death serfdom. That kept the price of > _everything_ low. Black death 1347 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serf "In England, it lasted up to the 1600s..." Serfs weren't slaves and were anything but "free labor." Read the wikipedia article and come back chastened.
From: T Wake on 11 Nov 2006 18:36 "Ben Newsam" <ben.newsam(a)ukonline.co.uk> wrote in message news:17icl21flphcmm8bc2mo953mofqp3r61uj(a)4ax.com... > On Sat, 11 Nov 2006 20:23:39 -0000, "T Wake" > <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote: > >>Are you implying that access to treatment should be on the basis of what >>the >>patient _thinks_ they need and can afford, rather than what the doctor >>thinks is the best treatment? > > I would imagine that under a system where anyone can visit any > specialist at any time, the best specialists would be inundated with > rich hypochondriacs wasting their time. Sadly, it seems this is /BAH's chosen model for the "ideal" health care system.
From: unsettled on 11 Nov 2006 18:38
T Wake wrote: > "Ben Newsam" <ben.newsam(a)ukonline.co.uk> wrote in message > news:9phbl21vpv2prs7aitep6isu3jia57frvc(a)4ax.com... > >>On Fri, 10 Nov 2006 21:26:36 -0600, unsettled <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> >>wrote: >> >>>T Wake wrote: >>> >>>>Possibly. Why do these governments and organisations hate the US when >>>>you do >>>>so much good? Why is the US, with its massive media capacity, unable to >>>>counter this propoganda when all you have is the good of the people in >>>>your >>>>mind? >>> >>>My mother, 1907-2000, said in a 1950's conversation >>>that it was simple jealousy and she'd been seeing >>>it all her life. >> >>Hahahaha! Er.... no thanks, I have no wish to live under the US yoke, >>thank you very much. Wha on earth have I got to be jealous about? A >>country that fails to see the results of its actions on the planet, >>the lack of a proper healthcare system, a country that seems (IMO) to >>be filled with hate-ridden people who are only able to judge the worth >>of a person by how much they earn... OK that's enough to be getting on >>with. Don't even get me started on their lack of a proper democratic >>system. >> >> >>>Brits, in particular, hate the US because Brits, >>>by comparison, feel impotent, while some remember >>>what it was like back in the Empire days. >> >>God, you're so stupid. > > > "Stupid" seems like such an understatement. > > Gratuitous bullshit. |