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From: T Wake on 11 Nov 2006 14:51 <jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message news:ej4f3c$8ss_004(a)s977.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com... > In article <t915h.3582$IR4.2252(a)newssvr25.news.prodigy.net>, > <lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote: >> >><jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message >>news:ej22jn$8qk_012(a)s995.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com... >>> >>> Since my experiences were with systems that didn't work, >> >>Yes, that would be with the current US system. Why do you assume that a >>nationalized health care would be the same, and have the same problems? >>We >>have heard testimony from at least 3 people in this discussion alone, to >>the >>contrary. > > I'm a software developer. Code that has a bug on my development > machine will never get fixed if I distribute the same code on > all my customers' machines. All I've done is make the mess so > big, it can't be solved. I hope this isn't an attempt at an analogy. Nationalised health care has so few similarities to distributed software it beggars belief.
From: T Wake on 11 Nov 2006 14:56 <jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message news:ej4f53$8ss_005(a)s977.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com... > In article <Uc15h.3583$IR4.3435(a)newssvr25.news.prodigy.net>, > <lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote: >> >><jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message >>news:ej22rc$8qk_013(a)s995.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com... >>> In article <eivs0e$vor$4(a)leto.cc.emory.edu>, >>> lparker(a)emory.edu (Lloyd Parker) wrote: >>> >>>>What good are the other rights if you're dead? >>> >>> Reread the sentence. They are only talking about insurance >>> being a right, not getting medical care. There is a difference. >> >> >>Well, the difference would be kinda moot to the millions of Americans who >>do >>not have insurance and cannot afford medical care, now wouldn't it? > > Now think about why they can't afford it. Easy. Because it is provided by private companies which are trying to make a profit and pay dividends to its shareholders. Now think about how a nationalise health care system is better.
From: T Wake on 11 Nov 2006 14:58 <jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message news:ej4flg$8ss_008(a)s977.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com... > In article <u-2dnbLwyb97osjYnZ2dnUVZ8sOdnZ2d(a)pipex.net>, > "T Wake" <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote: >> >>"Ben Newsam" <ben.newsam(a)ukonline.co.uk> wrote in message >>news:8bcal29ia4lnc75lbuo3p1b5l83etn3ive(a)4ax.com... >>> On Fri, 10 Nov 2006 15:53:26 GMT, <lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote: >>>><jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message >>>>news:ej234l$8qk_015(a)s995.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com... >>>>> >>>>> The same thing happened to medical pots of money contributed >>>>> by employees and their employers. The pool of monies got transformed >>>>> to insurance companies. >>>> >>>>Now you're catching on. Private insurance companies have profit motive. >>>>Government bodies that provide for health care don't. >>> >>> I have often wondered, re insurance, if I wouldn't get a better deal >>> by going down the local betting shop. In other words, what odds might >>> I get on betting that my house will get burgled in the next year? >> >>Interesting one - might be worth trying! >> >>Lots of insurance on electrical goods is madness, and you tend to expect >>that. Cat insurance is also insane - some policies ask for in the region >>of >>?10 pcm per cat and wont pay for the first ?50. If you take the money and >>put it in a savings account you get the best of both worlds, as long as >>you >>have the emergency fund for when it needs a ?500 operation... >> >> > You would spend $500 on a cat operation? ($ is merely used to indicate > money and not type of currency). It was a hypothetical figure. I have no idea how much feline surgery costs.
From: Eeyore on 11 Nov 2006 15:00 Jamie wrote: > Eeyore wrote: > > > Do you a problem accepting that Saddam's regime was secular ? He wasn't > > interested in promoting Islam. > > > > Graham > > ah, getting more like the un-educated Americans every day (as you claim)! > Did you forget a word in your sentence? :) But do you have a problem accepting that Saddam's regime was secular ? Graham
From: T Wake on 11 Nov 2006 15:00
<jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message news:ej4fio$8ss_007(a)s977.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com... > In article <Wf15h.3585$IR4.3293(a)newssvr25.news.prodigy.net>, > <lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote: >> >><jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message >>news:ej234l$8qk_015(a)s995.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com... >>> >>> The same thing happened to medical pots of money contributed >>> by employees and their employers. The pool of monies got transformed >>> to insurance companies. >> >> >>Now you're catching on. Private insurance companies have profit motive. >>Government bodies that provide for health care don't. > > Right. There is no competition and no check on 100% corruption. Really? Only if the government isn't accountable. Is your military inefficient and corrupt? What checks on corruption are there in private businesses? > Most monies will go to patronage, outright stealing and administration > costs. None will end up buying the real service. Pure nonsense, not to mention charges which can be equally laid at private healthcare firms. |