From: lucasea on

"Ben Newsam" <ben.newsam(a)ukonline.co.uk> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 11 Nov 2006 19:47:22 GMT, <lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Ben Newsam" <ben.newsam(a)ukonline.co.uk> wrote in message
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>>>
>>> (or if
>>> immobile, I ask to be visited at home),
>>
>>Is this a standard form of care in the UK? We haven't had doctors in
>>general make house-calls here in the US for at least 40 years.
>
> "In general", they don't, but doctors will of course visit those
> patients who genuinely cannot get to the surgery. I had a doc visit me
> when I was prostrate with gastro-enteritis and vomiting bile all over
> (eeeuw).

Eeeuw indeed!


> I would imagine they get rather shirty with those who abuse
> the system. There are other health workers who visit homes too.

That's a good point. When both my dad and my mom's second husband were
dying, there was a parade of different nurses that came by to bathe them,
give Mom a break, take blood to make sure their medicines were working
correctly, and then of course, eventually, hospice care. I guess a lot of
doctor functions have been taken over by nurses and PAs, and they will still
make a housecall for a price.

Eric Lucas


From: lucasea on

"unsettled" <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> wrote
>
> Gratuitous bullshit.

This is cool! Instead of posting a bunch of gratuitous bullshit like he
usually does, the unsettled one simply posts the words "gratuitous
bullshit", and saves everyone the time reading. Kinda like the famous Rene
Magritte painting.

Eric Lucas


From: lucasea on

"unsettled" <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> wrote gratuitous bullshit.



Indeed, newsreader, indeed.

Eric Lucas


From: lucasea on

"unsettled" <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> wrote in message
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>T Wake wrote:
>
>> "JoeBloe" <joebloe(a)thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org> wrote in message
>> news:vq9cl2dvd1icib3l1k30fv47kpdpevn2i8(a)4ax.com...
>>
>>>On Sat, 11 Nov 2006 18:45:06 -0000, "T Wake"
>>><usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> Gave us:
>>>
>>>
>>>>"JoeBloe" <joebloe(a)thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org> wrote in message
>>>>news:4krbl29h7imp8vc91vrkss29r591e1lbtn(a)4ax.com...
>>>>
>>>>>On Sat, 11 Nov 2006 06:39:29 GMT, <lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net> Gave us:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>"JoeBloe" <joebloe(a)thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org> wrote in message
>>>>>>news:g1eal2dosisofr40ccnm98kcgi8pbtiar0(a)4ax.com...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Even Western Digital has its products made and assembled elsewhere,
>>>>>>>but it is still an American company.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>...and what fraction of their workforce would be American?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Eric Lucas
>>>>>
>>>>> The up front investiture, hardware product, the profits, the name,
>>>>>the quality assurance, the engineering... All the parts that matter.
>>>>
>>>>How is that a fraction of the workforce? Do you mean to imply that the
>>>>workers don't matter?
>>>>
>>>
>>> I knew I could count on a twit like you not to get it.
>>
>>
>> It's ok. I know you cant explain yourself properly. Your educational
>> difficulties are pretty apparent.
>>
>> Feel free to explain what you meant by responding to "and what fraction
>> of their workforce would be American?" with "The up front investiture,
>> hardware product, the profits, the name, the quality assurance, the
>> engineering... All the parts that matter."
>>
>> I am sure it will be as entertaining as the rest of your posts.
>
>
> His point was valid in as much as you've shifted the
> goalposts because you were losing the argument.
>
> Your new question might be valid if asked in isolation
> from the discussion which was at hand.
>
> First concede that American products, designed by
> Americans and/or legal aliens in American employ,
> are sometimes manufactured by non-American hands
> operating American designed machines in Pacific
> Rim nations. After that we can discuss your newer
> query.


Well, actually, since my question was asked first, perhaps you might want to
hold JoeBlows to the same standard of answering the question before moving
on, that you do TWake. Oh, that's right, you only demand those questions be
answered that support your point of view....

Eric Lucas


From: lucasea on

"unsettled" <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> wrote in message
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>T Wake wrote:
>
>> "Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:45564091.D091A51D(a)hotmail.com...
>>
>>>
>>>T Wake wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Another example is the recent trial of Nick Griffin (the leader of the
>>>>BNP),
>>>>in which a court has acquitted him of race hate. Now personally I find
>>>>it
>>>>shocking to acquit the likes of Griffin and it is somewhat similar to
>>>>saying
>>>>the Pope isn't Catholic but at the end of the day, whether I like it or
>>>>not,
>>>>he has been acquitted. Following this John Reid says current laws may
>>>>need
>>>>reviewing. Surely this is madness. John Reid has judged Griffin guilty
>>>>and
>>>>intends to change the laws until he can get a jury to think the same.
>>>
>>>From what I've heard of the Griffin case it seems to me that he was being
>>>critical of Islam.
>>
>>
>> Which is reasonable enough.
>>
>>
>>>Because (a) he wasn't singling out a group by ethnicity as such and (b)
>>>because
>>>I'd hate to see some forms of criticism made illegal, I'm very glad he
>>>got
>>>acquitted.
>>
>>
>> I agree. It is a sad day, though, when I find myself hoping a racist
>> bigot will be let off...
>
> Even if it is anti-American bigotry such as you promote
> in these newsgroups?

Sorry, nice try. Just because you disagree when he points out fact that you
don't like about the US doesn't make it "bigotry". Learn the language.

Eric Lucas