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From: T Wake on 11 Nov 2006 16:16 <jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message news:ej4l1b$8ss_033(a)s977.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com... > In article <4555374F.EF500B95(a)hotmail.com>, > Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >> >> >>krw wrote: >> >>> rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com says... >>> > jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >>> > >>> > > Raising the minimum wage is stupid and insane. >>> > >>> > Why ? >>> >>> Why should the federal government tell anyone what their worth is? >>> > >>> > I saw it can be a slow as $5 an hour. >>> >>> The federal minimum wage is $5.15/hr. Some states are higher >>> (Vermont is $7.25 and going up). I'm not sure anyone really works >>> for the minimum (MacD's is advertising $9.00/hr.). >> >>So why the fuss over increasing what would seem to be a notional minimum ? >> > > You should notice that Keith is swearing. That is not is usual > style. I guess he's got the same problems I have. AS minimum > wage goes skyhigh, so do property taxes, real estate, food, other > taxes, and other things needed for survival. You both have claimed that "hardly anyone" would work for the minimum wage. If this is the case, it will have no impact at all. As it stands, the evidence in capitalist countries is that increases to the minimum wage does not cause "everything" to become more expensive. The advantage of having more people with disposable income, is that they buy more things. The market is a powerful and resilient beast. We could always go back to pre-black death serfdom. That kept the price of _everything_ low.
From: Eeyore on 11 Nov 2006 16:28 T Wake wrote: > Another example is the recent trial of Nick Griffin (the leader of the BNP), > in which a court has acquitted him of race hate. Now personally I find it > shocking to acquit the likes of Griffin and it is somewhat similar to saying > the Pope isn't Catholic but at the end of the day, whether I like it or not, > he has been acquitted. Following this John Reid says current laws may need > reviewing. Surely this is madness. John Reid has judged Griffin guilty and > intends to change the laws until he can get a jury to think the same. From what I've heard of the Griffin case it seems to me that he was being critical of Islam. Because (a) he wasn't singling out a group by ethnicity as such and (b) because I'd hate to see some forms of criticism made illegal, I'm very glad he got acquitted. Graham
From: Eeyore on 11 Nov 2006 16:38 T Wake wrote: > <jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message > > lparker(a)emory.edu (Lloyd Parker) wrote: > >> jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > >>> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > >>>>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> Raising the minimum wage is stupid and insane. > >>>> > >>>>Why ? > >>> > >>>It causes all other prices to eventually go up, especially housing. > >>>It eliminates wage competition. People's real productivity is > >>>no longer measured nor rewarded with wage. > >> > >>By that argument, you support slavery. > > > > I support the exact opposite. The scenario above promotes it. > > > > Really? How does a minimum wage promote slavery? Maybe she means you become a slave to your job but I thought that was common in the USA anyway . Working hours seem to be far far longer. Graham
From: T Wake on 11 Nov 2006 16:40 "JoeBloe" <joebloe(a)thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org> wrote in message news:untbl2lu6sk48glritv5qaa7jslc4pblhh(a)4ax.com... > On Sat, 11 Nov 2006 15:53:05 GMT, <lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net> Gave us: > >> You may not, but I expect better of my >>president and of the leader of the free world. > > > All of our current operations are only the start. Yes, it was > needed, and yes it is going to continue until all of the remaining > harbingers of hate and destruction are themselves put down. There goes another irony meter.
From: Eeyore on 11 Nov 2006 16:42
T Wake wrote: > <jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message > news:ej4k9c$8ss_030(a)s977.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com... > > In article <sq15h.3588$IR4.1362(a)newssvr25.news.prodigy.net>, > > <lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote: > >> > >>> jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > >>> > >>>> It causes all other prices to eventually go up, especially housing. > >>>> It eliminates wage competition. > >> > >>Only at the bottom end. Everyone else still competes. > >> > >> > >>>> People's real productivity is > >>>> no longer measured nor rewarded with wage. > >> > >>I would argue that anybody who is still making minimum wage after any time > >>at all in a job, isn't productive and doesn't deserve to be rewarded. > >> > >> > >>>> >I saw it can be a slow as $5 an hour. > >>>> > > >>>> >Can anyone actually live on that ? > >>>> > >>>> $10k/year? Yes. > >> > >>That's not living. > > > > You don't that. It is only your opinion that's not living. > > People do live on that kind of cash flow. > > Yeah but normally do-gooder ex-popstars have charity events to support them. Hah ! Did you see that series where Michael Portillo had to live on and look after some kids on benefits ? http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/reviews/3195040.stm Graham |