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From: unsettled on 13 Nov 2006 10:45 jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > In article <45574FB1.DE47F6CF(a)hotmail.com>, > Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > >> >>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >> >> >>> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >>>> >>>>> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>BAH may not be aware that it was a social conscience that drove Britain > > to > >>>>>>look at the possibility of a National Health Service. >>>>> >>>>>Britain is a single country and has a "small" acreage. The US >>>>>is 50 "countries" span a quarter hemisphere. >>>> >>>>What's that got to do with it ? >>> >>>Administration costs. Availability. Approvals for specific >>>treatments. It's "easier" to get these done in a small >>>geographic space than a continent's acreage. >> >>I fail to see what geographic space has to do with it. > > > I know. I don't know how to explain it better. You don't have > any idea about living in a place where you cannot see another > building that isn't yours. You don't know how people have > to plan trips to grocery stores, etc. as if they were long > journeys to a vacation spot. > > >>Most ppl find the idea of 'economy of scale' quite convincing ! >> >> >> >>>>Which part of " couldn't afford to buy the best medicine [ re: the drug my >>> >>>friend couldn't buy] " didn't you understand ? >>> >>>All of it. >> >>I asked him. His medical insurance only covers 25% of the cost of drugs. So > > the > >>'best drug' was beyond his financial means ( i.e his wages weren't enough to > > pay > >>for it ) so he had to settle for something inferior that wasn't wholly > > effective.. > >>Is that clearer ? > > > Let us assume that your friend's salary was $20K/year. This drug > dosage costs $25K? I don't believe that. What I do think is > that your friend was reluctant to give something up in lieu of > a drug that had efficacy. That was his decision to make. So it turns out the drug cost 2.5K against his income of 30K. You're right, money meant more to him than quality of life.
From: lucasea on 13 Nov 2006 10:48 "Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message news:45586738.4CAA2719(a)hotmail.com... > > > jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > >> So far, it's only expensive w.r.t. my time. With the latest >> addiction to faster and faster, I'm getting boxed in. > > Over here many ISPs 'give away' a USB modem with a DSL connection. > > Upgrade for heavens sake ! She's not getting "boxed in" by "addiction to faster and faster", she's getting boxed in by her dread fear of change, as evidenced by 1) Her making up all sorts of unlikely scenarios to prove that we should never, ever try to improve our health care system (even though she admits that there are huge problems as it exists now), and 2) Inventing superstitions that keep her from moving on to more advanced technology that would solve the problem much better than the superstitions. Eric Lucas
From: lucasea on 13 Nov 2006 10:49 <jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message news:ej9p16$8qk_001(a)s785.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com... > In article <5vdel2pke0d8o2pufvpkipjog039ml5td4(a)4ax.com>, > Ben Newsam <ben.newsam(a)ukonline.co.uk> wrote: >>On Sun, 12 Nov 06 12:47:09 GMT, jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >> >>>Didn't you ever wonder where your sewer people put all of that >>>water that get flushed and put down the drains of your sinks, >>>baths, and showers? >> >>No, because I know exactly what happens to it. It goes to the sewage >>treatment works at Tinsley. > > All water gets moved to one spot. How does the water table get > replenished in your area? That's pretty simple. Rain. And in the US, snow. Waste water gets pumped into rivers and lakes, which have minimal impact on the water table. Eric Lucas
From: lucasea on 13 Nov 2006 10:52 <jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message news:ej9pdm$8qk_004(a)s785.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com... > In article <luM5h.3942$Sw1.2732(a)newssvr13.news.prodigy.com>, > <lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote: >> >>"Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message >>news:45575321.EDAD176C(a)hotmail.com... >>> >>> >>> jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >>> >>>> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >>>> >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >>>> >> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >>>> >> >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >>>> >> > >>>> >> >> My folks, >>>> >> >> who will not see 80 again, dug a dry well by hand in the >>>> >> >> summer of 2005. >>>> >> > >>>> >> >Dare I ask why ? >>>> >> >>>> >> They needed one >>>> > >>>> >Was there a problem with their water supply ? >>>> >>>> Sorry. I should have explained. If you flush a toilet >>>> there's the solids and paper and lots and lots of water. >>>> A septic tank will fill up twice a year if the water >>>> isn't allowed to leak out. A dry well, which is an empty >>>> hole in the ground, lined by cement blocks, takes water overflows >>>> and allows the excess water to seep into the ground. So the >>>> water is recycled and the septic tank only has to be cleaned >>>> once every n years depending on the number of people filling it. >>> >>> Understood. >>> >>> >>>> >> and nobody in the business made them anymore. >>>> >> For some strange reason, leach fields are the craze. >>>> > >>>> >I'm not familiar with this 'leach fields' thing. >>>> >>>> That's another way to get rid of excess water and put >>>> it back into your water table. >>>> >>>> Didn't you ever wonder where your sewer people put all of that >>>> water that get flushed and put down the drains of your sinks, >>>> baths, and showers? >>> >>> Ultimately the River Thames - and then the sea. >> >>Exactly how it happens in the US. > > Only for those who don't have their own septic system. Irrelevant, since the discussion was about "...where your sewer people put all fo that water...". >> Ever wonder why most (all?) water >>treatment plants are adjacent to either a river, lake, or some other large >>body of water? > > No. Well, that would be your problem, then. Eric Lucas
From: lucasea on 13 Nov 2006 10:54
<jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message news:ej9piq$8qk_005(a)s785.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com... > In article <AkL5h.3513$Sw1.3507(a)newssvr13.news.prodigy.com>, > <lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote: >> >><jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message >>news:ej754d$8qk_011(a)s851.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com... >>> >>>>I'm not familiar with this 'leach fields' thing. >>> >>> That's another way to get rid of excess water and put >>> it back into your water table. >>> >>> Didn't you ever wonder where your sewer people put all of that >>> water that get flushed and put down the drains of your sinks, >>> baths, and showers? >> >>You really are clueless about how things get done. > > No. But one of the posters didn't know. Some of it was > a language barrier and some was never learning how sewer > systems of all kinds work. There is not a sewer system in this country that uses leach fields. No language barrier, and you're the only one who never learned how sewer systems work. >> Waste water treatment >>plants do not involve anything like leach beds or dry wells. > > My folks use a dry well. I use a dry well and a leech field. They're also not running a waste water treatment plant. Are you being purposely obtuse? Eric Lucas |