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From: Eeyore on 14 Nov 2006 09:24 jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > >> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > >> > >> >I'm wondering if BAH thinks we have our treatment 'rationed'. > >> > >> Would you know if that happened? Since you can't "shop around" > >> and compare, you cannot find out if your treatment is rationed, > >> especially its efficacy. > > > >In one case I wasn't happy with the treatment I got from a concultant so my > >doctor referred me to another one. > > How many referrals are you allowed? I'm not aware of any limit per se. I'd imagine that if you had problems still after a 3rd one there would be some questions needing to be answered. Graham
From: Eeyore on 14 Nov 2006 09:29 jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > >> Ben Newsam <ben.newsam(a)ukonline.co.uk> wrote: > >> >On Sun, 12 Nov 06 14:00:10 GMT, jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > >> >> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > >> >>>I'm wondering if BAH thinks we have our treatment 'rationed'. > >> >> > >> >>Would you know if that happened? Since you can't "shop around" > >> >>and compare, you cannot find out if your treatment is rationed, > >> >>especially its efficacy. > >> > > >> >All health systems of whatever sort are limited by cost. An > >> >insurance-based scheme will give up long before the NHS, however. > >> > >> That is one of the reasons an NHS doesn't work well. > > > >Right. > > > >BAH - you have now moved from making vague assertions about how you think > >things might work in theory to saying now that the NHS doesn't work well. > > If it works so well, why is there a backup system called private > practice? It's not really there as a backup and I'm sure they'd be very upset if you suggested that. It's targeted mainly at ppl who want a 'gold-plated' service or require treatment to fit their schedule rather than the other way round. The NHS does actually use some private services to a smal degree on a contract basis to complement their own facilities when needed. I was treated in a 'private' clinic for some physiotherapy some years back for example at no cost to me. > >Get over it ! It *does* work well ! 60 million ppl in the UK use it for their > >health care and we even have a life expectancy 2 years longer than US > citizens ! > > > >Start considering instead why the US health care system doesn't work well and > >costs so much ! > > That's what I've been talking about all along. An NHS does not and > will not work. What do you mean 'does not work' ??? What do you think it's doing here ? > >You're looking at imaginary problems btw. > > No, they are real. The problems seem to be in your mind. Graham
From: Eeyore on 14 Nov 2006 09:32 jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > Ben Newsam <ben.newsam(a)ukonline.co.uk> wrote: > >On Mon, 13 Nov 06 10:52:35 GMT, jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > > >What I meant was that an insurance-based system will refuse to treat > >people who it considers are not insured sooner than one which does not > >depend on insurance. > > Yes. > > >That means that, should you need a heart > >transplant, for instance, the only reason you might not get one (other > >than medical reasons) is because of the limits of the system, not > >because of your lack of adequate premiums. > > Now consider the rhetoric of our politicians who keep promising > health insurance....not medical care but insurance. That's a problem for sure. No doubt they're doing that to placate insurance companies who can see lots of income vanishing otherwise. I don't know how you fix that problem other than by sheer determination. Graham
From: Eeyore on 14 Nov 2006 09:34 jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > "T Wake" <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote: > ><jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message > >> Ben Newsam <ben.newsam(a)ukonline.co.uk> wrote: > > >>>All health systems of whatever sort are limited by cost. An > >>>insurance-based scheme will give up long before the NHS, however. > >> > >> That is one of the reasons an NHS doesn't work well. > > > >Really? It works better than an insurance based one. > > So far. But you have a backup system in place that you call > private practice. You really have kept the "old" ways. It exists in the same way that airlines have first class seats. It's not a backup. To say that you should get rid of economy / coach seats because some ppl fly first class would be silly - no ? Graham
From: lucasea on 14 Nov 2006 09:33
<jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message news:ejce2r$8ss_013(a)s858.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com... > In article <iSL5h.3631$Sw1.1074(a)newssvr13.news.prodigy.com>, > <lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote: >> >><jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message >>news:ej7ffd$8qk_042(a)s851.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com... >>> >>> After my tuition and dorm fee were paid, >> >>So just because you didn't pay it, you think it was free??? You're >>getting >>to be as bad as those people that <gasp> want nationalized health care >>because they think it is free!!! > > I paid it. You do like to leap illogical bounds. And you like to imply things that just aren't true. You weren't living on "$2/day". You were living on $2/day plus tuition and room and board. Very, very different. Eric Lucas |