From: krw on
In article <ejhvnl$8qk_019(a)s938.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com>,
jmfbahciv(a)aol.com says...
> In article <MPG.1fc5b33466bcef3a989b8c(a)news.individual.net>,
> krw <krw(a)att.bizzzz> wrote:
> >In article <455BBDAF.EC6FD0C2(a)hotmail.com>,
> >rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com says...
> >>
> >>
> >> krw wrote:
> >>
> >> > Plus taxes, fees, Spanish-American war debt...
> >>
> >> What fees btw ?
> >>
> >> The war debt is a joke I presume ?
> >
> >Not at all! Though the tax was recently rescinded because it
> >became such a joke.
> >
> Is that the one that requires an IRS form for the 2006 income
> taxes to get your money back?

Hadn't heard anything about that.

--
Keith
From: krw on
In article <ejhv75$8qk_016(a)s938.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com>,
jmfbahciv(a)aol.com says...
> In article <MPG.1fc51b4bef154b2c989b82(a)news.individual.net>,
> krw <krw(a)att.bizzzz> wrote:
> >In article <455B40A5.79F0C308(a)hotmail.com>,
> >rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com says...
> >>
> >>
> >> krw wrote:
> >>
> >> > rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com says...
> >> > > jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote:
> >> > > > <lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> >> > > >
> >> > > > >Well, Eeyore, this would belie the assertion that she lives too far
> from a
> >> > > > >population center to get decent DSL.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > I live in a town. There is no DSL line strung.
> >> > > > You people are starting to get really annoying.
> >> > >
> >> > > DSL comes down an ordinary telephone line !
> >> >
> >> > Only if you're within 17K' of the CO.
> >>
> >> I make that just a fraction over 3 miles.
> >
> >I'm about four miles from the CO according to the crow. How the
> >telco snakes things is another issue. On the line that went back
> >to the CO I couldn't get better than about 26K. The other one went
> >to a SLC in the neighborhood and I could get 49-53K reliably on
> >that line. DSL was still unavailable.
> >
> >> It works over longer distances overr here, albeit not flat out.
> >
> >It falls off fast. They're not willing to even try it.
>
> I'm talking to you both--towns are trying to get themselves
> wired. It will be a few years (I think it will be years and not
> months) before the laws and permissions and telcos and FCC
> sort all of this out).

Some of the outlieing towns where even 56K isn't available are
going with wireless Internet to get around the FCC tariffs.

--
Keith
From: krw on
In article <ejhv0f$8qk_015(a)s938.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com>,
jmfbahciv(a)aol.com says...
> In article <MPG.1fc3cafce1cb3355989b42(a)news.individual.net>,
> krw <krw(a)att.bizzzz> wrote:
> >In article <ejcl5p$8qk_009(a)s858.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com>,
> >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com says...
> >> In article <MPG.1fc25ed1ed313919989b01(a)news.individual.net>,
> >> krw <krw(a)att.bizzzz> wrote:
> >> >In article <ej9j89$8ss_002(a)s785.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com>,
> >> >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com says...
> >> >> In article <MPG.1fc110d0730ee4c8989af1(a)news.individual.net>,
> >> >> krw <krw(a)att.bizzzz> wrote:
> >>
> >> <snip>
> >>
> >> >> >Sure, but they learn not to do that! ;-) Falling on CCA treated
> >> >> >SYP isn't much fun either.
> >> >>
> >> >> My feet are shuddering just thinking about walking on that trex
> >> >> stuff.
> >> >
> >> >Trex isn't likely to leave a nasty arsenic coated splinter (I wear
> >> >shoes when walking on my CCA SYP deck).
> >>
> >> Point. I haven't gone barefoot since I lived with my folks.
> >> Urban places have too much broken glass that never gets
> >> cleaned up.
> >
> >That's because no one will pay minimum wage to clean it up so the
> >job doesn't get done. ;-)
>
> <GRIN> The broken glass was awful before the bottle bill. It's
> been getting worse lately. Perople areound here have too much
> money.

That's one of the intrusions into our lives I don't object to much.
Maybe it's time to raise the deposit. I think MI has been $.10 for
many years. The non-removeable pop-tops are another good idea.

--
Keith
From: T Wake on

"Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:455BD2C0.7A9B7952(a)hotmail.com...
>
>
> lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net wrote:
>
>> "T Wake" <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote in message
>>
>> > As a side note,what sort of surface area would a 4 bedroom house in the
>> > US
>> > have?
>>
>> NB she said 4 rooms, not 4 bedrooms. That would typically mean bedroom,
>> kitchen, living room and bathroom. That's probably on the order of 1000
>> sq
>> ft.
>
> LOL. My house has that area and it has 7 rooms.

We have history and the Americans have space...


From: T Wake on

<jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message
news:ejhou8$8qk_004(a)s938.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com...
> In article <4559CC2E.14E3A427(a)hotmail.com>,
> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote:
>>
>>> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote:
>>> >> <lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>> >> >
>>> >> >Your argument that we can't switch to a nationalized health care
>>> >> >system
>>> >> >because we have problems with the current system is exactly 180
>>> >> >degrees
>>> >> >out
>>> >> >of phase with reality. We need to switch to a nationalized health
>>> >> >care
>>> >> >system precisely becuase we have problems with the current system.
>>> >>
>>> >> The current problems are *caused* by having insuranace as the
>>> >> basis of medical service delivery. Forcing
>>> >> everybody to go the insurance route is flat out stupid.
>>> >
>>> >You would appear to be seeing the light !
>>>
>>> I see the consequences just fine. Forcing, by law, everyone
>>> to have insurance is the latest idiocy. Now people are trying
>>> to change our state constitution to make having insurance
>>> a right. Please note that these people never say receiving
>>> medical treatments but merely insurance.
>>
>>You need to get away from the concept of commercial
>>insurance. With that model
>>there is no drive to save money.
>
> *I* do not need to get away from the concept. I am telling you
> what our Democrats have in mind when they talk about a single-payer
> system.

And *we* are telling you that is irrelevant. A national health service would
improve the provision of healthcare to the lower paid segments of the US
population.

>>
>>Remember, the NHS is not insurance.
>
> I am telling you that your type of NHS would never be
> implemented here nor would it work.

Two assumptions. What basis do you use to claim it would never be
implemented?

Why wouldnt it work?

> Yours depends on administrating the services locally. That cannot happen
> in a large country.

Nonsense.

> Your NHS would not work if it had
> to expand all way to Italy and Russia.

Assumption based on nothing more than bias.