From: T Wake on 24 Nov 2006 11:19 <lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote in message news:QNE9h.9698$yE6.6604(a)newssvr14.news.prodigy.com... > > "unsettled" <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> wrote in message > news:e9d6$4565ee94$4fe72a4$25703(a)DIALUPUSA.NET... >> JoeBloe wrote: >>> >>> Being a Usenet PlonkTARD is likely worse. Announcing your filter >>> file edits plants you squarely at the bottom of the barrel. >> >> Having read his bile which he tries to foist off as discussion >> for a bit, it is obvious that he only engages those who are easy >> victims. Relf and TJ spring to mind. He thinks it is a face >> saving form or retreat on his part to plonk posters like me, >> never realizing just how transparent his agenda is. > > Is that why you put me in your killfile? And assuming the unsettled thing is still talking about PTP here, it was stated that PTP still responds to Relf / Frazir because at least they are amusing. Unsettled was just a jingoistic retard with nothing of value to provide to _any_ debate. If unsettled wants to check, he can take part in some of the other threads and see what he can provide in the way of real physics.
From: lucasea on 24 Nov 2006 11:21 "T Wake" <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote in message news:bfSdnU2N77r5ZfjYRVnytQ(a)pipex.net... > > <lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote in message > news:CXb9h.24806$yl4.9568(a)newssvr12.news.prodigy.com... >> >> "unsettled" <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> wrote in message >> news:3fcbb$45647f3d$4fe77c5$17560(a)DIALUPUSA.NET... >> >>> AT&T's former monopoly was licensed and regulated. They >>> eventally voluntarily gave it up in order to be permitted >>> to invest their profits in something unrelated to >>> their primary business. >>> >>> And just in case you haven't been paying attention, the >>> phoenix is arising out of its ashes. >> >> Yes, and the American consumer and worker had better hope that this is >> one pendulum that starts to swing back the other way, and FAST. Jobs are >> being lost and prices are rising, all because of the lack of effective >> competition in several sectors of the American economy. The SEC and FTC >> have been asleep at the wheel for the past 20 years, and the American >> middle class is the one paying the price. > > Based on unsettled and /BAH's previous posts, they are not overly > concerned what happens to the middle class as "Middle class" assumptions > and lifestyles appear to be "wrong" from their class war POV. The one thing you have to keep in mind is that they both claim to be retired (I have no reason to doubt either.) I've seen this behavior often. While they were working, they supported administrations that built up enormous deficits because it meant not paying as much in taxes as they should have to support the services that they got from the government. Now that the economy is slowing down in response to such irresponsible governance, and health care is becoming too expensive for all but the richest, those who got their slice of the pie during that time refuse to allow the government to institute the social programs that were necessitated by their generation's irresponsibility and greed. In other words, now that BAH and Unsettled have gotten their little slice of the pie, everyone else can eat cake. Apres eux, la deluge! Eric Lucas
From: unsettled on 24 Nov 2006 11:22 T Wake wrote: > <lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote in message > news:eFE9h.9693$yE6.9309(a)newssvr14.news.prodigy.com... > >>"T Wake" <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote in message >>news:MtSdnXm0y5U4evjYnZ2dnUVZ8tOdnZ2d(a)pipex.net... >> >>><jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message >>>news:ek47u9$8qk_002(a)s1002.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com... >>> >>>>In article <456481AB.D9E20023(a)hotmail.com>, >>>> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> lparker(a)emory.edu (Lloyd Parker) wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>What percentage do you think the government has to take? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Medicare runs with about a 3% overhead rate. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>I don't believe this. That may be the Federal percentage. The >>>>>>>>state percentage also has to be included. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>There is no state % for Medicare. You're thinking of Medicaid. >>>>>> >>>>>>No, I'm not. Who sends the money? Not the feds. The feds >>>>>>send the money to the state who then disburses it. That is >>>>>>two political levels of bureaucracy. >>>>> >>>>>An 'NHS' doesn't have these problems. >>>> >>>>Once again, I'll ask you to think about administering your >>>>NHS to all of Europe. That is how the US has to work. >>>>We essentially 50 countries, each has its own politics, economy >>>>and different priority lists. >>> >>>It is a shame you have such a low opinion of the American people. >> >>It's also quite a shame that she has such a lack of understanding of the >>US Constitution, to think that no national program is possible. There are >>plenty of national programs in the US, and they work fine. > > > I suspected that was the case, but not knowing for sure I was waiting for > confirmation from those more knowledgeable. The blind leading the blind?
From: unsettled on 24 Nov 2006 11:23 T Wake wrote: > <lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote in message > news:HHE9h.9696$yE6.2106(a)newssvr14.news.prodigy.com... > >>"JoeBloe" <joebloe(a)thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org> wrote in message >>news:77qbm29el5g5dfm6cmo0ve7d9che195e3g(a)4ax.com... >> >>> Being a Usenet PlonkTARD is likely worse. Announcing your filter >>>file edits plants you squarely at the bottom of the barrel. >> >>Oh, you mean like Unsettled does? > > > And lots of the others here (/BAH, Terrell etc). > > There's a difference between plonking people and being a PlonkTARD. But I wouldn't expect you to notice.
From: lucasea on 24 Nov 2006 11:27
"Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message news:4565FF54.8FB55B64(a)hotmail.com... > > > jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > >> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >> >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >> >> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> >In comparison the US system fails to deliver as much at a far greater >> >> >cost. >> >> >> >> You are comparing a mom and pop store with a conglomerate. >> > >> >In population terms the USA's only 5 times bigger. Similar schemes to >> >the NHS >> >exist all over Europe with a far greater population than the USA. >> >> But dispersed over the equivalent of 50 countries, each with its >> own sets of rules. In your country everybody agrees to one set. >> This is not true in the US. The one-rule set is very limited in >> power. > > I can see that the position of the individual states may complicate things > a bit. > I wouldn't have thought this would be insuperable though. Of course it's not. Our Federal government does plenty of things for the entire country. This is just another of BAH's excuses for ignoring data that a nationalized health care system would be better than what we currently have. Eric Lucas |