From: jmfbahciv on
In article <ek5979$t07$3(a)blue.rahul.net>,
kensmith(a)green.rahul.net (Ken Smith) wrote:
>In article <ek4blc$8qk_002(a)s1002.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com>,
> <jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote:
>[....]
>>>Don't you just love infinity? It so impressive! The autor seems to have
>>>confused socialism with communism. Many socialists are in favor of local
>>>control.
>>
>>Local economic control. When the politicians begin to control
>>the economics, the system becomes communism.
>
>You need to break open a text book or dictionary. Communism and socialism
>are two fairly different concepts. Communist tend to work towards large
>organizations and central control. Not all socialists do.

Socialism does get communistic if the administration covers a
large geographic and/or population density. There isn't any
other way to "control" renegades who don't like to be told
what to do all the time.
>
>Basically communists believe in "the efficiency of scale" like a religion.

No. That's the sound bite. It is impossible to large and efficient
with a central control. There have to be too many layers of
managers to ensure obedience and that only the approved production
is done. Since approval has to arrive from a central point, all
innovation has to be squelched. Gradually, enforcement has to resort
to killing to week out the independent thinkers and those who can't
fake compliance.

/BAH
From: jmfbahciv on
In article <456658AD.8E7F3B0E(a)hotmail.com>,
Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote:
>
>> unsettled <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >The US doesn't do well with infant mortality. I haven't
>> >delved into why that is.
>>
>> It's possible that medical technology is too good.
>
>In what way can that explain the higher level of US infant mortality ?

There may be less spontaneous abortions.

/BAH
From: jmfbahciv on
In article <4565FB83.C82CC77B(a)hotmail.com>,
Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote:
>
>> hill(a)rowland.org wrote:
>> >Eeyore wrote:
>> >> Winfield Hill wrote:
>> >>> Google Groups is having a little trouble with this long thread.
>> >>> The message-heading list said there were 9999 posts, so
>> >>> I hoped to make the 10,000th post, but upon loading all the
>> >>> article references in the left sidebar, it showed more than
>> >>> 10,050 posts, so I missed the opportunity.
>> >>
>> >> Yes, we've found a flaw with google groups.
>> >>
>> >> The summary page seems incapable of displaying any number > 10,000 !
>> >> The honour of the 10,000th post goes to T Wake btw.
>> >
>> > Well, Graham, actually it has you as # 10,000 right now.
>> > But the number is volatile and it'll change as soon as
>> > someone posts higher up in the list, pushing the rest down.
>>
>> Try this test of their software: See if you can access and read the
>> first couple of posts in this thread.
>
>It has no trouble with that at all.

Good. The links aren't broken. I wonder if they doubly-linked
it...probably not.

/BAH
From: jmfbahciv on
In article <MPG.1fcf9771c508b2b6989c41(a)news.individual.net>,
krw <krw(a)att.bizzzz> wrote:
>In article <ek1q41$ucf$1(a)leto.cc.emory.edu>, lparker(a)emory.edu
>says...
>> In article <ek1equ$8ss_003(a)s853.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com>,
>> jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote:
>> >In article <ejv29u$vbq$2(a)leto.cc.emory.edu>,
>> > lparker(a)emory.edu (Lloyd Parker) wrote:
>> >>In article <1164101047.711452.220630(a)f16g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
>> >> |||newspam|||@nezumi.demon.co.uk wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>unsettled wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>> Ken Smith wrote:
>> >>>> > In article <MPG.1fcae9c9199518f8989c01(a)news.individual.net>,
>> >>>> > krw <krw(a)att.bizzzz> wrote:
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> >>In article <ejqve0$fgo$2(a)blue.rahul.net>, kensmith(a)green.rahul.net
>> >>>> >>says...
>> >>>> >>
>> >>>> >>>In article <6af58$455ba5ff$4fe75f7$20998(a)DIALUPUSA.NET>,
>> >>>> >>>unsettled <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> wrote:
>> >>>> >>>[.....]
>> >>>> >>>
>> >>>> >>>>The original error starts with you two clowns failing to
>> >>>> >>>>appreciate that capitalism has a soul.
>> >>>> >>>
>> >>>> >>>(Boggle) Capitalism is a cold hard logical system.
>> >>>> >>>
>> >>>> >>>
>> >>>> >>>>To define a term
>> >>>> >>>>"fair profit" isn't beyond the capacity of capitalism to
>> >>>> >>>>embrace freely and without external (read governmental)
>> >>>> >>>>imposition.
>> >>>> >>>
>> >>>> >>>It is beyond the capacity of capitalism to define what "fair
profit"
>> >>>> >>>really means.
>> >>>> >>
>> >>>> >>Nonsense! Capitalism perfectly defines what is fair; did someone
>> >>>> >>pay the fair market value? If so, it is by *definition* fair. If
>> >>>> >>not it is not "fair".
>> >>>
>> >>>There is no "fair" market price. There is only the price that one
>> >>>particular individual is willing to pay for the specific goods or
>> >>>services. If you want some fun try comparing how much you have paid for
>> >>>an airline seat on a scheduled flight with your neighbours. And don't
>> >>>get too upset if you find that one of them has paid half what you did
>> >>>for the same journey and ticket.
>> >>>
>> >>>Willing seller willing buyer. If you don't like the price you are not
>> >>>compelled to buy it.
>> >>
>> >>Water after a natural disaster. Monopolies. There are many examples
where
>> >>unbridled capitalism is just plain wrong.
>> >
>> >Have you considered that people should plan ahead?
>> >
>> >/BAH
>> >
>>
>> Have you considered compassion? Caring (about more than money, that is)?
>
>It's not particularly caring nor compassionate to force money from
>one person to give it to another. The Salvation Army and even the
>Red Cross seemed to do a bit better than the USG in the past couple
>of disasters.

Red Cross isn't any good either. It's run with a government model.
The Walmarts and other retail did the best. People should be
wondering why and then take another look at all social programs
not managed well by governments.
>>
>> AT&T once had a monopoly on phone service. Tell me how someone could damn
>> "plan ahead"!
>
>Please tell me that you aren't serious.
>
<grin>

/BAH
From: jmfbahciv on
In article <ek55cd$nvu$1(a)blue.rahul.net>,
kensmith(a)green.rahul.net (Ken Smith) wrote:
>In article <542fc$45657734$4fe7682$23423(a)DIALUPUSA.NET>,
>unsettled <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> wrote:
>[...]
>>Ken Smith stands in opposition to a lot of stuff
>
>I'm also for a lot of stuff too, but thank you.
>
>[....]
>>The US doesn't do well with infant mortality. I haven't
>>delved into why that is.
>
>Part of it is who the mothers are and how poor their health is. For some
>reason the US has a lot of things like "crack babies" pushing the number
>of deaths up. I suspect that if you could remove that bias the difference
>would be smaller.

Is that where the difference is? I wonder if the number will diminish
since the Federal govnerment has put a limit on the number of babies
it will pay for.


<snip>

/BAH