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From: unsettled on 24 Nov 2006 09:53 jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > In article <456702EC.9C246AC5(a)hotmail.com>, > Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > >> >>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >> >> >>> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>>unsettled wrote: >>>> >>>>>Ken Smith wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>How many communist economies exist worldwide ? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>Zero if you round off to the nearest whole number. >>>>> >>>>>Maggot brain misspeaks again. China, Cuba, North Korea, >>>>>and VietNam spring immediately to mind. >>>> >>>>You think China is communist ? >>> >>>Yes. They have developed their unique form of Communism. >>>It is interesting to watch when they mix a little bit >>>of capitalism in certain areas. >> >>Little bit ???? > > > Yup. A very little bit. > > >>It can't be communism if they encorage capitalism can it ? > They are not encouraging capitalism in lieu of their brand > of communism. They are trying out pieces of it. Their > field test site is usually the area next door to Hong Kong. > If something works, they move it to Shanghia. I am assuming > that the pieces that merge nicely with their political methods > will creep throughout its economy. In the FSU and Warsaw Pact the common practice was for the government to hand over businesses that were not doing at all well to private individuals working for the business, and allow them to operate it as a capitalist business. When it did well for a while, they'd nationalize it again. > These people do everything solidly. I saw a road being constructed. > They dug down to the bedrock and then built the road up. This > isn't done in "Western" places anymore. Too expensive and labor > intensive. Makework.
From: jmfbahciv on 24 Nov 2006 09:49 In article <1164297902.254938.218460(a)l12g2000cwl.googlegroups.com>, |||newspam|||@nezumi.demon.co.uk wrote: > >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > >> In article <45659BD4.C4D74C51(a)hotmail.com>, >> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >> > >> >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >> > >> >> I know it isn't ideal. Because of this fact, no national >> >> social program will deliver satisfactory service efficiently. >> >> It will deliver the minimum and that's all. >> > >> >You just keep saying this with no factual basis. >> > >> >The truth is that the NHS ( a national social prgramme ) does deliver a good >> >service very effectively. I'd call it better than a minimum too but it is for >> >sure essentially 'no frills'. >> >> It services a small geographic area with a uniform economy, a >> uniform governement, and a uniform political base of assumptions. > >It covers England, Scotland and Wales with slightly different rules in >each place according to local taste (devolution for Scotland saw to >that). I take it you have never heard of the North South divide then? >The UK is not a uniform economy by any means. It is run under the same laws. That is a uniform economy. Each of our states have their own laws. Very few federal laws supercede state law. Cases before our Supreme Court are cases where the Feds want control and the states say no. /BAH > >> >In comparison the US system fails to deliver as much at a far greater cost. >> >> You are comparing a mom and pop store with a conglomerate. > >You have a very peculiar definition of a mom & pop store. But when did >you ever let small details like facts get in the way of your warped and >twisted world view. > >The UK NHS in its entireity is generally reckonned to be the fifth >largest employer on the planet (1.3M employees in 2005) just below >Walmart & US DOD in the rankings. > >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Health_Service#Staff > >A comprehensive US version would have to be bigger but not by all that >much - perhaps 5x at most. BTW The UK health system is an efficient >conglomerate with economies of scale. > >If you are happy with a US system where the uninsurable chronically ill >have to beg for expensive drugs off the manufacturers that is your >problem. And it will only get worse as more powerful genetic tests >allow insurers to screen out high risk individuals before they get >sick. > >It seems to be a prevalent attitude in the USA that only the very rich >who can pay for everything privately deserve to get a decent education >or health care. Most odd. > >Regards, >Martin Brown >
From: T Wake on 24 Nov 2006 10:01 "Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message news:45665783.7FFDB565(a)hotmail.com... > > > unsettled wrote: > >> Jamie wrote: >> > Eeyore wrote: >> >> unsettled wrote: >> >> >> >>> Our post offices are also open till 5PM in most places. >> >> >> >> Is that supposed to be some kind of special US achievement ? Ours stay >> >> open later than that ! >> >> >> >> Graham >> >> >> > Is there anything over there that is below standard or >> > at least, your standard? >> > >> > You live in such a dream world, maybe you should >> > step out side and smell the air, cause I think it stinks >> > at times like it does anywhere else in the world. >> >> I was in the UK in 2000. The post offices closed at noon. > > The post offices here have never closed at noon. They keep normal shop > hours. I was in the US in 2005 and the post offices were closed. Granted it was a Sunday, but it carries as much weight (and relevance) as unsettleds post.
From: T Wake on 24 Nov 2006 10:06 "Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message news:45665D70.AA196620(a)hotmail.com... > > > unsettled wrote: > >> I don't accept that the US healthcare system is such a >> disaster as several claim it is. > > I'm sure it's great for ppl who don't get ill. Funny thing is, most of the proponents of the NHS _haven't_ said the US health care system is a disaster as such - just that introducing an NHS system would be better. /BAH is a good example of an odd one out - she rants about how bad the US system is but any thing which changes it will just make it even worse (often for random reasons)
From: T Wake on 24 Nov 2006 10:08
<jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message news:ek6p19$8ss_002(a)s989.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com... > In article <45665CD2.DEFBB67F(a)hotmail.com>, > Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >> >> >>unsettled wrote: >> >>> Ken Smith wrote: >>> > Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >>> > >>> >>How many communist economies exist worldwide ? >>> > >>> > >>> > Zero if you round off to the nearest whole number. >>> >>> Maggot brain misspeaks again. China, Cuba, North Korea, >>> and VietNam spring immediately to mind. >> >>You think China is communist ? > > Yes. They have developed their unique form of Communism. > It is interesting to watch when they mix a little bit > of capitalism in certain areas. Think about what capitalism is and how you cant "mix in a little bit" of it to Communism and remain Communist. |