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From: Eeyore on 26 Nov 2006 15:17 Phineas T Puddleduck wrote: > If you seriously think we're all flag waving royalists you're sadly > mistaken. I'm pretty much a republican with a small r myself. I used to harbour republican ideals until the concept of Margaret Thatcher as President put me off the idea for life ! Give me the Queen any day ! Graham
From: Eeyore on 26 Nov 2006 15:23 John Fields wrote: > "T Wake" <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote: > > > >Well, the Monarch has largely devolved the Royal Prerogative to the > >government of the day and I think the last time the Monarch did anything of > >a "power" line was a one off in the 1830s. > > --- > Sorry, no. Australia 1975, Grenada 1983, Solomon Islands 1994. That wasn't the Monarch. > >The Monarch is a constitutional rule and as such, subject to the decisions > >made by the Prime Minister and the cabinet. > > --- > More properly, you live in a representative democracy which is a > Constitutional Monarchy with a hereditary Monarch who is the Head of > State. Titular Head of State. Graham
From: Eeyore on 26 Nov 2006 15:25 T Wake wrote: > "Phineas T Puddleduck" <phineaspuddleduck(a)googlemail.com> wrote > > John Fields <jfields(a)austininstruments.com> wrote: > > > >> By and large, yes. > >> > >> If I hire a contractor to put a new roof on my house I will expect > >> him to put a new roof on my house. > >> > >> Similarly, I expect that your government, if it's funding the health > >> service, expects certain norms of competence to be exhibited by the > >> contractors (doctors) it hires. Also, I'm sure there are certain > >> basic rules laid down by the government which the health service, > >> itself, must follow, which _is_ control. Am I wrong? > > > > Isn't everyone then, by that standard. > > Yes, which is why it is an incorrect analogy being brought in to try and > "scare monger." > > If you hire a contractor to put a new roof on the house, you do not > "control" the contractor. You establish the work required and let them get > on with it. You do not run the contractors business, you have no say over > what staff work there and you have no say over what happens _outside_ the > terms of the contract. > > It does cut both ways though, if as some people assert, the NHS is a > government run organisation at every level then so are all the companies > which the US government contracts work out to. Now, do people want to assert > that they are inefficient and socialist? By the nutters' standards, surely the 'government run' USPS makes the USA socialist ? If not communist even ! Graham
From: Eeyore on 26 Nov 2006 15:28 John Fields wrote: > Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > > > >> When they talk about capitalism, it isn't our definition and > >> we get in fights. What seems even odder, Europeans call > >> the thingie we call socialism, capitalism. I haven't explored > >> this further. So add a grain of salt. > > > >There is no such confusion other than in your interpretation of the meanings of > >the word. There is no socialist party in the USA btw. > > --- > What's this, then? > > http://sp-usa.org/ Do they have any elected representatives ? Graham
From: Eeyore on 26 Nov 2006 15:32
Don Bowey wrote: > "Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > Jamie wrote: > >> Eeyore wrote: > >>> Jamie wrote: > >>>> Eeyore wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> Same problem here with Thatcher. > >>>>> > >>>>> I used to call it the 'me me me' society. I reckon the mentality screwed > >>>>> up quite a large percentage of youngsters too. > >>>>> > >>>>> Graham > >>>> > >>>> Must of been around when you were a youngster ? > >>> > >>> You mean "must have". > >>> > >>> "Must of" is used by ppl who are to dim to understand and use the language > >>> properly. > >>> > >>> And the answer is no btw. > >>> > >>> Graham > >>> > >> Since you fully understood my statement as quoted above, i have > >> successfully for filled my goal! Putting that into context, i would say > >> my use of the language was very effective. > >> > >> YOU RECKON ! hmm, where I have herd that backyard bill hilly > >> statement before? Does not sound proper for an englishman you RECKON? > > > > Ther's no such strange connection with the word 'reckon' in the UK. We don't > > have any hillbillies here. > > > > Graham > > Ask any pilot you know if they recognize the word. Every pilot first learns > to pilot by dead reckoning long before they learn to use anything more than > a compass. I'm quite familiar with the term. > I suppose the word is attributed to hillbillies, but I think > it's only from the boost given it by comics and movies. > > So if you don't have hillbillies, who tends the Highland coos and sheeps? Farmers ? Graham |