From: Eeyore on


unsettled wrote:

> Performance is the only currency deciding advancement,
> which isn't socialist at all. If it were a socialist
> system we'd allow cripples in the US military.

Please post an example of cripples in the military anywhere.

Graham

From: Eeyore on


John Fields wrote:

> On Wed, 29 Nov 2006 11:55:48 +0000, Eeyore
> <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >John Fields wrote:
>
> >> ---
> >> Nothing is forever.
> >>
> >> You all now have a Supreme Court, no?
> >
> >The Law Lords.
>
> ---
> No I meant a _real_ Supreme Court, separate from Parliament even to
> the extent of their building.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitutional_Reform_Act_2005
>
> >In recent times they have IIRC ruled that some legislation was illegal.
>
> ---
> OK, but _that_ was the Law Lords. There was no provision for an
> actual Supreme Court before the Constitutional Reform Act 2005, I
> believe.

That would seem to be the case.

We don't seem to have suffered as a result though. The new Supreme Court is
scheduled to open for business in 2009 or 2010 IIRC.

Graham

From: Don Bowey on
On 11/29/06 8:10 AM, in article ekkbe9$hgv$2(a)blue.rahul.net, "Ken Smith"
<kensmith(a)green.rahul.net> wrote:

> In article <C191DF9D.4F0CD%dbowey(a)comcast.net>,
> Don Bowey <dbowey(a)comcast.net> wrote:
>> On 11/28/06 6:50 AM, in article ekhiav$pkt$4(a)blue.rahul.net, "Ken Smith"
>> <kensmith(a)green.rahul.net> wrote:
> [.....]
>>
>>> "could" doesn't mean it does. An FM station in SanFransisco will not be
>>> heard in another state. Geography will see to that. Its range running
>>> inland will be less than 50 miles in most directions and certainly less
>>> than 200 in all. There is no way that it will make it out if state.
>>
>> You must not have done much of a study for that.
>
> What makes you think I didn't?
>
>> I live near Vancouver, WA
>> and can often find FM stations over 100 miles away, for example, Eugene, Or.
>> And when at Eugene, I can find Portland stations, so I know the signal will
>> also go to Vancouver, Wa. Some people make a hobby of finding broadcast
>> signals from distant locations, and write the station for a card (QSL) to
>> acknowledge it. Google might help you find more info.
>
> Take a look at the geography in the SanFransisco area. I picked that
> location for a good reason. I live near enough that I've had a goodly
> amount of experience with where the radio signals get to. Nobody in
> another state is *ever* going to hear KALW over the air. There are hills
> that ensure that you can't get a low angle to the ionospere. Google on
> "total internal refraction".
>
>
>> During atmospheric conditions called ducting, some very long signal paths
>> will exist. In my personal experience I've encountered several hundred miles
>> due to ducting. This differs from skip, which can provide a path over
>> thousands of miles.
>
> Ducting won't get the signal from KALW out of state.
>
>>>> 2. A multitude of low power transmitters within a state could interfere
>>>> with all interstate reception, intentionally or by accident.
>>>
>>> Not on the FM band in SanFransisco. The station I am using as an example
>>> would not have any out of state FM stations to interfere with.
>>
>> Ok. So consider state borders. Portland, Or. and Vancouver Wa, for
>> example. Or NY and New Jersey. Or Ca. and Mexico. Etc.
>
> No, consider only the case I gave. The station in never going to be
> heard out of state. How does the FCC constitutionally get the right to
> regulate it, that can't also be used as an argument making the NHS
> constitutional? Several people have asserted that the constitution bars a
> NHS.
>
>

The case you gave is insufficient to build law upon.


From: Eeyore on


John Fields wrote:

> On Wed, 29 Nov 06 13:09:44 GMT, jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote:
>
> >In article <456D7544.F1CC4D6D(a)hotmail.com>,
> > Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>John Fields wrote:
> >>> You all now have a Supreme Court, no?
> >>
> >>The Law Lords.
> >>
> >>In recent times they have IIRC ruled that some legislation was illegal.
> >
> >No. Unconstitutional.
>
> ---
> Do you have a reference you can cite?

Here's a couple. The Gov't had to back down on the indefinite detention of
foreign terror supects btw.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/terrorism/story/0,12780,1375827,00.html

And we can even influence the law in Trinidad still !
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/3239726.stm

And here's the House of Lords acting as a brake on the Gov't.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/4338737.stm

Graham

From: T Wake on

<jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message
news:ekk3cr$8ss_014(a)s875.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com...
> In article <456C4AD2.5AEF9B64(a)hotmail.com>,
> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote:
>>
>>> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >That's clearly not going to happen overnight ( or even in
>>> >the long term ) no matter how favourable the circumstances may be.
>>>
>>> There is all kinds of stuff that needs somebody to work on it.
>>> All you have to do is look and start working. My sister worked
>>> with a gal in the factory. The factory had a very high reject
>>> count with a particular part. This gal started her own business
>>> and offered to fix all the rejects of this part. She was making
>>> tons of money, had quite a few people working for her.
>>
>>How many ?
>>
>>100,000 ?
>
> Of course not. If you want a strong economy that can withstand
> the usual boom and bust cycles, you need small business to be
> the backbone of employers--not the unions; not the govnernment;
> and definitely not the only employer in the country. England
> is not kind to its wealthy and, since WWII, had been stifling
> its middle-class.

Really? Can you cite an example of this or are you talking from personal
experience again?

Because my personal experience says this is nonsense.

> That's what socialism does. Nobody feels
> they "own" a problem and so will not use any of their ingenuity
> to solve it.

Breathtaking lack of knowledge about the UK.