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From: Eeyore on 29 Nov 2006 11:11 jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > lparker(a)emory.edu (Lloyd Parker) wrote: > > krw <krw(a)att.bizzzz> wrote: > >>lparker(a)emory.edu says... > >>> > >>> OK, Sweden. Saab, Volvo, Scania -- plenty of private enterprise. > >> > >> > >>You do know that Saab is owned by GM and Volvo by Ford? > >> > > > >So? That doesn't change my argument that the major industries there are > >capitalistic. And Saab and Volvo were independent as recently as 5-6 years > >ago. Volvo trucks still is, BTW. > > But you are counting them using one hand! See my post on the matter. In any event Ford and GM only bought the cars divisions of Saab and Volvo. Saab and Volvo are far, far larger than that ! Graham
From: Eeyore on 29 Nov 2006 11:15 unsettled wrote: > jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > > Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > > >>You simply can't make these analogies with small start ups. > > > > How do you think the large companies got started? > > > > It occurred to belatedly that you are a teenaged boy. That > > would explain a lot of the bizarre things you have written > > and your ignornance of how stuff works. > > "On December 17, 1903, at Kitty Hawk, North Carolina, the Wright Flyer > became the first powered, heavier-than-air machine to achieve > controlled, sustained flight with a pilot aboard." > > http://www.nasm.si.edu/wrightbrothers/ > > Small start up company. I'd like to see that happen now ! Graham
From: Lloyd Parker on 29 Nov 2006 06:15 In article <767eb$456c7040$4fe7665$9791(a)DIALUPUSA.NET>, unsettled <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> wrote: >Lloyd Parker wrote: > >> In article <862ca$456b8a32$49ecfcf$4294(a)DIALUPUSA.NET>, >> unsettled <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> wrote: >> >>>Lloyd Parker wrote: >>> >>>>In article <52483$456b1860$49ecfde$979(a)DIALUPUSA.NET>, >>>> unsettled <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>>Lloyd Parker wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>In article <MPG.1fd28e4b92c5a97989cc1(a)news.individual.net>, >>>>>> krw <krw(a)att.bizzzz> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>In article <asydncaDLYw_J_XYRVnygg(a)pipex.net>, >>>>>>>usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com says... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>"Phineas T Puddleduck" <phineaspuddleduck(a)googlemail.com> wrote in >> >> message >> >>>>>>>>news:phineaspuddleduck-416009.21422525112006(a)free.teranews.com... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>In article <Ls-dnZRLjKdkKvXYnZ2dnUVZ8smdnZ2d(a)pipex.net>, >>>>>>>>>"T Wake" <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>I certainly agree on that. "Chavs" have a tendency to crop up most in >>>>>> >>>>>>the >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>areas most affected by Thacherite policies. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>It seems to be a rebellion to the way things were done. You have the >>>>>>>>>worst of both systems. The right wing view that everything now >>>>>>>>>disallowed is permissible, and the left wing view that the state should >>>>>>>>>mollycoddle you. Add that to a fanatical hatred of anything not "local" >>>>>>>>>and "familar" and you have a chav. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>I'm left of centre myself. I can see the need for the state to keep >>>>>>>>>checks and balances, but human nature sometimes really makes me cry! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Prior to getting embroiled in this thread, I thought I was fairly right >> >> of >> >>>>>>>>centre. I now see the error in my ways and I am firmly left of centre >> >> now. >> >>>>>>I >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>suspect half the apparently right wing extremists posting on this thread >>>>>>>>live very different lives away from USENET. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>No, you're a left-wing extremist, right there with the dumb donkey. >>>>>>>This isn't surprising since you're both socialist Europeons. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>To you, anyone to the left of Atilla the Hun is a socialist. >>>>> >>>>>You probably ought to read history about Attila (and note the >>>>>spelling, it's not a Brit name.) >>>> >>>> >>>>From wikipedia: >>>> >>>>"n Hungary and Turkey the names of Attila (sometimes as Atilla in >> >> Turkish)," >> >>>>Also see http://www.hyperhistory.net/apwh/bios/b3atilla_p1dz.htm >>> >>>From your web page: >>> >>>"While most people see Atilla [more often spelled "Attila"]..." >>> >>>The following tidbit comes fom a web page that makes the >>>hyperhstory page look like a comic book parody on the later >>>history of the Huns: >>> >>>"Hungarian-speaking population of Hungary from the German, Slavic, and >>>Romanian minorities. Sz�kely, ethnic group of Transylvania and of >>>present-day Romania, is another good example. The Sz�kely (also known as >>>Szeklers or Siculi) came into Transylvania either with or before the >>>Magyars. Their organization was of the Turkic type, and they are >>>probably of Turkic (possibly Avar) stock. By the 11th cent., however, >>>they had adopted Magyar speech. Some scholars disputed the word 'adopt' >>>since they believe that Sz�kely were of Magyar family, related to one of >>>the two sons of Attila the Hun. Sz�kely later formed one of three >>>privileged nations of Transylvania (the others were the Magyars and the >>>Saxons). " >>> >>>http://www.republicanchina.org/Hun.html >>> >>>This page provides a learned study of enough elements to provide >>>the reader with sufficient information to make a reasonable >>>decision about the languages involved and to arrive at the "correct" >>>spelling of Attila's name. >>> >>>I don't care why you spelled the name as you did. You're in the >>>minority. >> >> >> Maybe I just like double-L names! > >LOL Any Welsh backgorund? > Very distant -- a mixture of Welsh, Irish, Dutch, English, and Cherokee. But my name is Welsh in origin (although it's not pronounced like the Welsh would pronounce it, I've been told).
From: Lloyd Parker on 29 Nov 2006 06:14 In article <485af$456c7009$4fe7665$9791(a)DIALUPUSA.NET>, unsettled <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> wrote: >Lloyd Parker wrote: >> In article <ekhdog$8qk_001(a)s1016.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com>, >> jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > >>>>But again, what you get doesn't depend on your ability to pay. > >>>Huh? > >> In a pure socialistic system, you'd receive what you need without regards to >> ability to pay, right? That's how the military works. > >In the military physical performance is required and >routinely tested. Inability to perform results in >separation. But you get ahead without regard to wealth. Your ability to pay doesn't affect your advancement, as it does with a capitalistic system. > >They have to have the ability to "pay" in terms of >services provided.
From: Lloyd Parker on 29 Nov 2006 06:20
In article <MPG.1fd65004ab145a57989d2c(a)news.individual.net>, krw <krw(a)att.bizzzz> wrote: >In article <456C8009.41F3B1E7(a)hotmail.com>, >rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com says... >> >> >> krw wrote: >> >> > rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com says... >> > > krw wrote: >> > > >lparker(a)emory.edu says... >> > > > > >> > > > > OK, Sweden. Saab, Volvo, Scania -- plenty of private enterprise. >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > You do know that Saab is owned by GM and Volvo by Ford? >> > > >> > > GM and Ford are communist ? >> > >> > Given the labor unions influence, I=3Fm not so sure... >> > >> > But the word for today is =3Fsocialist=3F. Stop moving the goal posts, >> > dumb donkey. >> >> So, GM and Ford are socialist ? > >Sweden certainly *is* (which was the subject, not FOrd or GM), as >is most of Western Europe. > But Sweden has private enterprise. In fact, I'd wager very few corporations are government-owned. |