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From: Eeyore on 4 Oct 2006 17:55 John Fields wrote: > On Tue, 03 Oct 2006 23:43:26 +0100, Eeyore wrote: > >T Wake wrote: > >> "Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote > >> > T Wake wrote: > >> > > >> >> If we stick to the WWII analogy, > >> >> the French resistance were certainly terrorists > >> > > >> > More like insurgents in fact. > >> > >> In my lexicon there is no difference ;-) > > > >Trust me, there is one. > > --- > Then why not just state what you think it is instead of playing your > stupid, "Nya, nya, nya, I know but you don't." game? You can find the dictionary definitions online. I also posted them later for good measure. Graham
From: Jim Thompson on 4 Oct 2006 17:57 On Wed, 04 Oct 2006 21:51:21 GMT, Kurt Ullman <kurtullman(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >In article <HLVUg.13315$7I1.5654(a)newssvr27.news.prodigy.net>, > <lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote: > > >> I don't care. If you're listening to a phone call to which the phone in my >> living room is party, then as a citizen of the US, I demand that your >> listening be carried out according to my Constitutional rights. > > Probably is. Under a warrant for a phone anything that goes on over >that phone is legally admissable, even if the other person's phone >doesn't have a warrant on it. It well settled that as long as one phone >is legally tapped, any phone that calls it or is called by it is fair >game. Since there are no restrictions on tapping a phone outside of the >country, it would be legal tap. Thus anyone the phone calls or anyone >who calls the phone could be listened to as noted. Would be a rather >interesting case to make. And it varies state-by-state... it is legal in Arizona to record all calls on your own phone, _without_ notifying the other party. All I need to do is push a button ;-) ...Jim Thompson -- | James E.Thompson, P.E. | mens | | Analog Innovations, Inc. | et | | Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus | | Phoenix, Arizona Voice:(480)460-2350 | | | E-mail Address at Website Fax:(480)460-2142 | Brass Rat | | http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 | I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.
From: lucasea on 4 Oct 2006 17:59 "T Wake" <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote in message news:WcGdnX5vtrSegrnYRVnygw(a)pipex.net... > > "Keith" <krw(a)att.bizzzz> wrote in message > news:MPG.1f8dd6c6ae306000989d7b(a)News.Individual.NET... >> In article <zKKdnSzN97hrlbnYnZ2dnUVZ8qWdnZ2d(a)pipex.net>, >> usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com says... >>> >>> "Keith" <krw(a)att.bizzzz> wrote in message >>> news:MPG.1f8db9d68e963bff989d6e(a)News.Individual.NET... >>> > In article <%8RUg.8425$GR.1728(a)newssvr29.news.prodigy.net>, >>> > lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net says... >>> >> >>> >> "Keith" <krw(a)att.bizzzz> wrote in message >>> >> news:MPG.1f8d949b973606e3989d61(a)News.Individual.NET... >>> >> > >>> >> >> > Oh, you mean like the Reagen and Clinton administrations did >>> >> >> > with >>> >> >> > Osama >>> >> >> > bin Laden when he was fighting the Soviets in Afghanistan? >>> >> >> >>> >> >> Sadly, yes. >>> >> > >>> >> > Another idiot heard from. >>> >> >>> >> You don't believe that former administrations provided substantial >>> >> support >>> >> to two people/organizations who have subsequently turned against the >>> >> US? >>> >> You need to read more, it's well-known. >>> > >>> > It's well known that the Quarterbacking on Monday morning is much >>> > better than that on Sunday afternoon too. What a maroon! >>> >>> What a response. You are truly at the cutting edge of debate Sir. >> >> It is an observation that happens to be germane here. Want another >> one? 20:20 hindsight is perfect. I wasn't criticizing the actions. I was merely pointing out that following the enemy-of-my-enemy diplomacy has gotten us in trouble in the past. There was, at the time that that support was given, no reason not to believe it was a good idea. However, what I'm trying to get people to think about is that they might want to try to *learn* from past actions that come back to bite us. However, if you (or our Government, or anybody else) is so focused on not admiting a mistake was *ever* made, then of course we will never learn from the past. >> No, I don't. OBL <> Northern Alliance. > > Well, the debate over Usama's support not withstanding, the US did > actively support the Taleban who were "created" by the Pakistani's (that > great ally in the war). > > All part of the quest to oust the commies. Yep. And isn't it also ironic that the ouster of those very commies has been one of the destabilizing forces in the world that may well have furthered the current mess? Eric Lucas
From: Eeyore on 4 Oct 2006 18:03 T Wake wrote: > "Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote > > T Wake wrote: > >> "Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote > >> > T Wake wrote: > >> >> "Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote > >> >> > T Wake wrote: > >> > >> >> >> Look at the [expletive deleted] from Leeds who blew up the > >> >> >> underground. For them to function there has to be places where > >> >> >> they can exist and move about. > >> >> > > >> >> > Their homes it would seem and the streets in the places where they > >> >> > live. > >> >> > >> >> Yes. Because the local people support their fight. > >> > > >> > Actually it seems that local ppl have been genuinely surprised. > >> > >> I suspect most of them are. There have to be enough sympathisers for it > >> to have happened though. > > > > It only needs very few. > > Still a non-zero number. > > People have to have not noticed the contact they had with the extremist who > "corrupted" their belief. > > People have to have not noticed as they headed down the road towards the > act. > > Some people will be innocently keeping themselves to themselves. Some will > have encouraged it. > > The problem is, the cowards who encourage it, live to repeat the action > another day. > > >> >> How can this be the case in a developed country with a democratically > >> >> elected government and low unemployment? > >> > > >> > Because it has nothing to do with any of the above. > >> > >> Yet young, educated men decided to kill their country men. > >> > >> The problem is they had become disassociated with their own country > >> enough for this to happen. If they had come from an integrated part of > >> society it would have been less likely to happen and they would have > >> been less able to function. > > > > I can elaborate on this for sure. > > > > 'Traditional' Islamic families have almost nothing in common with the > > norms of British society. It's inevitable that some of their kids will find > it > > perplexing and revolt ( one way or the other ). > > > > Integration is anathema to these ppl. How do you fix that ? > > Sadly, the only solution is to ask them to leave. I am a huge fan of the > freedoms and rights I have as a British citizen. If some one chooses to come > to live in this country, then they should live by the rules and customs. > They have actively chosen to come here. > > If I went to Iran (for example) and tried to open a pub selling Australian > lager would I get away with it? > > Note: This does not just apply to Islam. All ghettoisation is wrong and > causes nothing but trouble. Integration is the only long term option. I'm rather inclined to agree. I fail to see how 'hard line' Muslims can ever be happy here. Graham
From: T Wake on 4 Oct 2006 18:03
"John Larkin" <jjlarkin(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote in message news:8la8i2h6duqgv7fk2v2p3j6deeh0bhkl15(a)4ax.com... > On Wed, 4 Oct 2006 21:46:19 +0100, "T Wake" > <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote: > > >> >>Damn Ghandi and his crazy ideas - not to mention that fool Jesus. Look at >>how many arguments he lost in the long term. >> > > Ghandi shamed the British into setting India free. It wouldn't have > worked with the Russians or the Chinese... they would have disappeared > him and his followers in weeks. > Well, that is as maybe. The fact of the matter is his actions were suitable to the situation. If he had been martyred would that have harmed his cause? |