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From: Homer J Simpson on 4 Oct 2006 17:30 "John Fields" <jfields(a)austininstruments.com> wrote in message news:7q78i2110dvqf9s036o5b5i44dtpb316vo(a)4ax.com... > What _is_ illegal is establishing a presence here and then using > that presence to break our laws. The internet is not a presence.
From: Homer J Simpson on 4 Oct 2006 17:30 "T Wake" <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote in message news:nK6dndhIJoSMvLnYnZ2dnUVZ8qednZ2d(a)pipex.net... > Yes, but we are not the generation of seventy years ago. > > It is not a case of reading reports of pacifist beliefs - currently we are > willing to surrender basic freedoms all to "Prevent Terrorism." > > I have no doubt the British people are as warlike as they were in the > fifth century. > > I do, however, doubt how wedded we are as a society to the fundamental > freedoms we grew up with. (Stop and search, ID cards etc). All you need is another Churchill. You've already got a Chamberlain.
From: John Fields on 4 Oct 2006 17:29 On Wed, 04 Oct 2006 00:42:54 +0100, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > >Homer J Simpson wrote: > >> "T Wake" <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote >> >> > Alternatively you could put every mosque under armed guard and provide >> > them with no end of support.... :-) >> >> Or move them all to the Outer Hebrides - and the Muslims with them! > >With such a wide selection to choose from, I often wonder why we have no >prison islands. --- You do. It's called Australia. >You could make the prisoners actually work the land and stuff. >You never know, it might do them good. --- They certainly seem to be doing better than you lot, lately. -- John Fields Professional Circuit Designer
From: T Wake on 4 Oct 2006 17:32 "Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message news:4524279C.2853754B(a)hotmail.com... > > > T Wake wrote: > >> "Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote >> > T Wake wrote: >> >> "Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote >> >> >> >> > It's called realpolitik. >> >> >> >> Call it anything you want. It gets in the way of solving the problem. >> >> >> >> What would your answer be? >> > >> > Go for it. I consider myself a realist. I doubt that all the answers >> > will >> > be entirely pure-as-driven-snow 100% ethical, they never are. >> >> The problem is one of history though. >> >> For example, we are currently in a situation where people are "getting >> revenge" for acts carried out against their people by the Oppressor >> (Palestinians vs Israel for example). > > And the USA vs Islam. > > >> As part of this thought experiment we >> imagine a situation where the "West" decides to enforce a cease fire and >> forces Israel to give the Palestinians land, coastline, water etc. >> >> Now, fast forward 50 years and picture a group of disaffected Israeli >> boys >> being whipped into a murderous fervour by a Rabbi who is telling them how >> the dirty Arabs stole their lands and how they should exact revenge. Off >> they go, with their guns and kill some Arabs. The cycle continues. > > I can well imagine this too. Israel has to be encouraged to come to a > mutually > acceptable deal with the Palestinians. > The Palestinians need to be encouraged to come to a mutually acceptable deal with the Israelis as well. All too often negotiations are simply another word for "re-arming"
From: Eeyore on 4 Oct 2006 17:33
John Fields wrote: > On Tue, 03 Oct 2006 23:33:31 +0100, Eeyore wrote: > >John Fields wrote: > >> On Tue, 03 Oct 2006 16:05:58 +0100, Eeyore wrote: > >> >John Fields wrote: > >> >> On Mon, 02 Oct 2006 23:55:44 +0100, Eeyore wrote: > >> >> >John Fields wrote: > >> >> > >> >> >> You're not, you're just a coward who's afraid to go out and do > >> >> >> the bombing you'd really like to. > >> >> > > >> >> >Don't be so absurd. It sems you can only relate to violent ideas. > >> >> > >> >> --- > >> >> Not at all true, but when I read your violent rhetoric I like to > >> >> translate it into visuals which depict what you'd like to do if you > >> >> weren't afraid of the reprisals. > >> > > >> >Show where I have espoused violence. > >> > >> --- > >> I recall you said that you have nukes which you'd use to repel > >> invading Muslims. That's pretty violent in my book. > > > >I said no such thing. Nor do I expect any invasion ! What a crackpot idea. > > --- > Denying saying it won't make it not so. You're utterly stark raving bonkers MAD ! Who's going to invade us ???? How FFS ??? Graham |