From: Eeyore on


jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote:

> lparker(a)emory.edu (Lloyd Parker) wrote:
> > jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote:
> >> kensmith(a)green.rahul.net (Ken Smith) wrote:
>
> >>You really should do all that; she's now doing the preliminary
> >>running for 2008 Presidency. The Liberals in this state want
> >>her for President so that Bill can take over again.
> >
> >Yeah, we long for those days of peace
>
> YOu have a very odd definition of peace.
>
> > and prosperity, of balanced budgets,
>
> Budgets were not balanced.

They were a heck of a lot better !

I'm truly astonised.

In the time GWB has been in office, the value of the dollar has dropped by > 40%
!

Graham

From: Eeyore on


jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote:

> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
> >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote:
> >> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote:
> >> >> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote:
> >> >> >> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> >> >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote:
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> When everybody gets everything equally, nobody is
> >> >> >> >> allowed to be wealthy. Thus, all are poor, equally poor, but
> >> >> >> >> poor.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >Even communist Russia wasn't run like that !
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Of course it was. Only the viscious of the managers got the
> >> >> >> power.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >We were talking about wealth, albeit rather limited wealth in that era.
> >> >>
> >> >> And look how their agriculture suffered. How people get food is a clue
> >> >> to their economy, social structure, trade and power.
> >> >
> >> >This has absolutely nothing to do with degress of wealth under communism.
> >>
> >> If that is true then I've been wasting all of my studying time.
> >> However, I haven't wasted my time; you can tell a lot from
> >> old grocery lists.
> >
> >The 'wealth' of the favoured few wasn't perhaps so obvious.
>
> You don't think the unfavored didn't know who was favored?

Where did I say that ?

Graham

From: Ken Smith on
In article <el3tjb$8qk_004(a)s881.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com>,
<jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote:
>In article <200612051249.kB5CnKxU005870(a)ipp.mpg.de>,
> Bruce Scott TOK <Use-Author-Supplied-Address-Header@[127.1]> wrote:
>>Typical of right wingnuts to
>>
>>1) turn this to a thread about Hillary
>>
>>2) focus on her minutiae (and slick willie's) while ignoring the
>> magnitude of what came after
>
>The US is in danger of having those two in the White House again.
>We apparently never learn from previous history, especially recent
>history.


My wife would buy Monica some gold plated knee pads to get Clinton's
policies back.

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From: Eeyore on


jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote:

> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
> >T Wake wrote:
> >
> >> Your exact claim is the "poor kid will succeed more often than the rich
> >> kid" - given there are *more* poor kids than rich kids, the percentage of
> >> ex-Poor kids should be staggering in your society.
> >>
> >> Is it?
> >
> >I had a hard time thinking of any example of 'rags to riches' success but I
> >reckon I'm reasonably close with Alan Sugar.
> >
> >From school-leaver market trader to owner of what is now probably the largest
> >UK electronics company in consumer goods with a personal worth of �800 million
>
> >he's done quite well !
> >
> >Of course this happened in the supposedly 'socialist' UK !
>
> When did he start?

According to my link, as a market trader in the early 60s.


> >I wonder if BAH would like to comment ?
> >
> >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Sugar
> >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amstrad
>
> Why can you only think of one person?

Not everyone's such a great self-publicist !

Graham

From: krw on
In article <4575811C.AEDAD6A9(a)hotmail.com>,
rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com says...
>
>
> jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote:
>
> > lparker(a)emory.edu (Lloyd Parker) wrote:
> > > jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote:
> > >> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
> > >>>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote:
> > >>>> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>> >I rather doubt that it does happen all the time in the USA. I suspect
> > >>>> > it's just another of your fanciful folksy notions.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Nope. It's fact.
> > >>>
> > >>>I still don't believe you. Your 'facts' have been rather fanciful to date.
> > >>All of my brothers and sisters bought their own home before they
> > >>got legal (21). They were on their second or third car. They
> > >>worked and supported themselves. All of my relatives on my mother's
> > >>side had some kind farm business before they were legal.
> > >>
> > >>None were rich. None were even middle class. Most were poor.
> > >>
> > >>/BAH
> > >
> > >Teenagers buy their own homes, and "none were right -- none were even middle
> > >class."
> > >
> > >There's your problem -- you have no idea of what "middle class" means. Hint:
> >
> > >middle-class teenagers are not able to buy their own homes.
> >
> > Right. Poor ones manage to do so. One of the lessons you learn
> > when you grow up poor is how not to spend money.
>
> Dear BAH,
>
> the 'entry price round here for even a modest single bedroom apartment, never mind
> a house is the equivalent of £300,000.
>
> Please explain how a 'poor person' can acquire one.

Live elsewhere.

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Keith