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From: |||newspam||| on 5 Dec 2006 10:34 jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > In article <4572475E.BA56AF16(a)hotmail.com>, > Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > > >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > > > >> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > >> >I rather doubt that it does happen all the time in the USA. I suspect it's > >> > just another of your fanciful folksy notions. > >> > >> Nope. It's fact. > > > >I still don't believe you. Your 'facts' have been rather fanciful to date. > All of my brothers and sisters bought their own home before they > got legal (21). They were on their second or third car. They > worked and supported themselves. All of my relatives on my mother's > side had some kind farm business before they were legal. Even allowing for ultra-cheap tacky portacabin / garden sheds that some USians call homes how exactly did they do it? The numbers just don't seem to stack up. In most first world countries a basic starter home costs somewhere between 5 and 20x median annual salary. And more still in truly expensive hotspots like Tokyo or Hong Kong. I guess things are a bit cheaper in Outer Hicksville but what are the numbers? > None were rich. None were even middle class. Most were poor. This appears to be yet another of your folksy fairy tales. You cannot be poor and buy a house - in the UK at least in the 80's the banks would not even look at you for a home loan unless you had at least a 5% deposit to put down. You can be cash poor after buying a house though and finding all the things that urgently need doing to make it habitable. It will be interesting to watch the pips squeak when capitalistic USA has to rack up interest rates to keep the dollar from sliding inexorably into the abyss. £1 = $2 is not far away - I still recall the shock on US colleagues faces when it reached parity with the "weak" Euro. Now it has passed $1.30 = 1 EURO. GWB really knows how to wreck the US economy. http://www.ft.com/cms/s/179dd6e0-837e-11db-9e95-0000779e2340.html Still it makes the US dirt cheap for shopping trips. Bad news for the UK tourist industry though. Regards, Martin Brown
From: jmfbahciv on 5 Dec 2006 10:31 In article <4575811C.AEDAD6A9(a)hotmail.com>, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > >> lparker(a)emory.edu (Lloyd Parker) wrote: >> > jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >> >> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >> >>>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >> >>>> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >> >>>> >> >>>> >I rather doubt that it does happen all the time in the USA. I suspect >> >>>> > it's just another of your fanciful folksy notions. >> >>>> >> >>>> Nope. It's fact. >> >>> >> >>>I still don't believe you. Your 'facts' have been rather fanciful to date. >> >>All of my brothers and sisters bought their own home before they >> >>got legal (21). They were on their second or third car. They >> >>worked and supported themselves. All of my relatives on my mother's >> >>side had some kind farm business before they were legal. >> >> >> >>None were rich. None were even middle class. Most were poor. >> >> >> >>/BAH >> > >> >Teenagers buy their own homes, and "none were right -- none were even middle >> >class." >> > >> >There's your problem -- you have no idea of what "middle class" means. Hint: >> >> >middle-class teenagers are not able to buy their own homes. >> >> Right. Poor ones manage to do so. One of the lessons you learn >> when you grow up poor is how not to spend money. > >Dear BAH, > >the 'entry price round here for even a modest single >bedroom apartment, never mind >a house is the equivalent of �300,000. > >Please explain how a 'poor person' can acquire one. Don't buy in the ritzy neighborhood. Pool resources with 3 others. There all kinds of ways to get started owning instead of renting. /BAH
From: jmfbahciv on 5 Dec 2006 10:35 In article <457582AE.C4A41B32(a)hotmail.com>, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > >> lparker(a)emory.edu (Lloyd Parker) wrote: >> > >> >Bush has made the messes; arguably the worst since ... >> >> And then you say this. Why aren't you blaming the extremists >> instead of the politicians who are trying to deal with the >> messes the extremists have made? > >Why would one praise politicians for throwing fuel on the fire ? I don't; I've been damning them throughout this thread. /BAH
From: Ken Smith on 5 Dec 2006 10:43 In article <457430BE.BA7929BC(a)hotmail.com>, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: [....] >Heck, even I'm old enought to have used a slide rule. I still must have one >somewhere ! I own two and even know where the better one is. -- -- kensmith(a)rahul.net forging knowledge
From: jmfbahciv on 5 Dec 2006 10:40
In article <457582FF.2D709A82(a)hotmail.com>, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > >> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >> > >> >Talking of insane have you heard about the bunch of god-believers who think >> >humans and dinosaurs once co-existed ? >> >> Sure. I even know some who think the heavens and the earth have >> were created 10,000 years ago...IIRC, that's the number. >> <snip> >> >> >There are many things I find deeply disturbing about the USA ! >> >> That was the problem I was working on before 9/11. > >Perhaps you'd like to elaborate ? The US religious extremists and the European socialist extremists are trying to destroy knowledge and get the level of knowledge back to the "good ol' days". I have been doing little tweaks to prevent that from happening. I've also been doing a dump of my brain's contents to document what I know and what I know has already been lost. None of this preservation matters if extreme Islam becomes the predominate governing and economic law. All of my knowledge is Western civilization-based and will be heretical if those extremists get their way. /BAH |