From: Lloyd Parker on
In article <el3tjb$8qk_004(a)s881.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com>,
jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote:
>In article <200612051249.kB5CnKxU005870(a)ipp.mpg.de>,
> Bruce Scott TOK <Use-Author-Supplied-Address-Header@[127.1]> wrote:
>>Typical of right wingnuts to
>>
>>1) turn this to a thread about Hillary
>>
>>2) focus on her minutiae (and slick willie's) while ignoring the
>> magnitude of what came after
>
>The US is in danger of having those two in the White House again.
>We apparently never learn from previous history, especially recent
>history.
>
>
>>
>>The difference in the scale of the corruption is at least three orders
>>of magnitude, people. In lives as well as in money.
>
>I think you listen to Hillary's speeches to the Palestians
>to get a handle of what she would be willing to cede.
>Isarel was one of those things.
>
>/BAH
>

OK, official idiot alert!
From: Eeyore on


jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote:

> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
> >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote:
> >> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >Talking of insane have you heard about the bunch of god-believers who
> >> >think humans and dinosaurs once co-existed ?
> >>
> >> Sure. I even know some who think the heavens and the earth have
> >> were created 10,000 years ago...IIRC, that's the number.
> >> <snip>
> >>
> >> >There are many things I find deeply disturbing about the USA !
> >>
> >> That was the problem I was working on before 9/11.
> >
> >Perhaps you'd like to elaborate ?
>
> The US religious extremists and the European socialist
> extremists are trying to destroy knowledge and get the
> level of knowledge back to the "good ol' days".

No question about the US religious right but where do you get the ideas about
Europe from ? I don't know of any 'socialist extremists'. And don't just say
that's my upbringing - let's have some facts !


> I have been doing little tweaks to prevent that from
> happening. I've also been doing a dump of my brain's
> contents to document what I know and what I know has
> already been lost.
>
> None of this preservation matters if extreme Islam
> becomes the predominate governing and economic law.

And how exactly is that ever going to happen ?

Facts again please not political diatribe.

Graham

From: Eeyore on


Ken Smith wrote:

> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
> [....]
> >Heck, even I'm old enought to have used a slide rule. I still must have one
> >somewhere !
>
> I own two and even know where the better one is.

I ought to have two still but I really don't know for sure where they got to.

I have a drawing board too but that never got that much use in the end.

Graham

From: unsettled on
krw wrote:

> In article <4575811C.AEDAD6A9(a)hotmail.com>,
> rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com says...
>
>>
>>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote:
>>
>>
>>> lparker(a)emory.edu (Lloyd Parker) wrote:
>>>
>>>> jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I rather doubt that it does happen all the time in the USA. I suspect
>>>>>>>>it's just another of your fanciful folksy notions.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Nope. It's fact.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I still don't believe you. Your 'facts' have been rather fanciful to date.
>>>>>
>>>>>All of my brothers and sisters bought their own home before they
>>>>>got legal (21). They were on their second or third car. They
>>>>>worked and supported themselves. All of my relatives on my mother's
>>>>>side had some kind farm business before they were legal.
>>>>>
>>>>>None were rich. None were even middle class. Most were poor.
>>>>>
>>>>>/BAH
>>>>
>>>>Teenagers buy their own homes, and "none were right -- none were even middle
>>>>class."
>>>>
>>>>There's your problem -- you have no idea of what "middle class" means. Hint:
>>>
>>>>middle-class teenagers are not able to buy their own homes.
>>>
>>>Right. Poor ones manage to do so. One of the lessons you learn
>>>when you grow up poor is how not to spend money.
>>
>>Dear BAH,
>>
>>the 'entry price round here for even a modest single bedroom apartment, never mind
>>a house is the equivalent of �300,000.
>>
>>Please explain how a 'poor person' can acquire one.
>
>
> Live elsewhere.

A bank is having trouble locally selling a perfectly livable
house with an asking price of $19,000. I'll bet anyone with
a job and $100 cash and a reasonable credit history could
move in tomorrow.

From: Eeyore on


jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote:

> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
> >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote:
> >> lparker(a)emory.edu (Lloyd Parker) wrote:
> >> > jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote:
> >> >> kensmith(a)green.rahul.net (Ken Smith) wrote:
> >>
> >> >>You really should do all that; she's now doing the preliminary
> >> >>running for 2008 Presidency. The Liberals in this state want
> >> >>her for President so that Bill can take over again.
> >> >
> >> >Yeah, we long for those days of peace
> >>
> >> YOu have a very odd definition of peace.
> >>
> >> > and prosperity, of balanced budgets,
> >>
> >> Budgets were not balanced.
> >
> >They were a heck of a lot better !
>
> No, they weren't. Money was getting "saved" by stripping the
> military funding. The social security chits were still getting
> used. I don't remember the trade deficit ever going away.

I don't see any problem with reducing military spending to realistic levels.

The trade deficit has rocketed under Bush.


> >I'm truly astonised.
> >
> >In the time GWB has been in office, the value of the dollar has dropped by >
> >40%
>
> Based on what?

Compared to the pound. It's 30% down btw - my error. It's previous value @ ~
$1.40 to the pound was 40% more than the current rate though.

Graham