From: T Wake on

<jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message
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> In article <4576FB2F.437F0D91(a)hotmail.com>,
> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>T Wake wrote:
>>
>>> <jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message
>>> > Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> >>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >>> None of this preservation matters if extreme Islam
>>> >>> becomes the predominate governing and economic law.
>>> >>
>>> >>And how exactly is that ever going to happen ?
>>> >
>>> > Listen to you enemy. They aren't lying to you.
>>>
>>> Interesting take on things. You fail to say how this is ever going to
> happen
>>> other than to point to the myriad of threats made by an extremist
>>> minority.
>>> The extremists have no way of forcing people to convert to Islam, nor
>>> can
>>> they institute Islamic law on unwilling countries. We can do that to
>>> ourselves if people become so frightened of the alternatives (or the
>>> alternatives become worse).
>>>
>>> More importantly you ascribe an automatic truth to enemy propaganda. Is
>>> there a reason for this? The enemy are saying things to cause fear,
>>> uncertainty and doubt. You, oddly, accept everything they say and assume
>>> they are capable of doing amazing things against a democracy.
>>>
>>> You really do have a low opinion of the democratic process and what it
>>> is
>>> capable of.
>>
>>Never mind the democratic process.
>>
>>If any Muslims over here try it on, they'll discover what a swift kick to
>>the
>>nuts does !
>
> With the methods available today, you will never see your
> killer.

If they kill Eeyore they have failed. Killing people doesn't convert them,
it just kills them.

The fear you monger is more likely to cause a conversion.


From: jmfbahciv on
In article <4576EB91.7516663D(a)hotmail.com>,
Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote:
>
>> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote:
>> >> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote:
>> >> >> lparker(a)emory.edu (Lloyd Parker) wrote:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >Ever hear of the "peace dividend"? We weren't fighting the cold war
>> >> >> >anymore.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> And you swallowed the sound byte hook, line, and sinker.
>> >> >
>> >> >That's sound bite btw. I'm amused how it's been corrupted so quickly.
>> >>
>> >> It is "byte" if all you do is rely on Google for your facts.
>> >
>> >So you do have web access ? That's not what Google tells me !
>> >
>> >http://www.google.com/search?rls=en&q=sound+bite
>> >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soundbite
>> >
>> >
>> >> >> The cold war didn't just stop.
>> >> >
>> >> >Well actually, yes it did. Aside from N Korea I suppose.
>> >>
>> >> Afghanistan and the Taliban was caused by cold war skirmishes.
>> >
>> >It was certainly caused by Cold War stupidity !
>>
>> Oh, I see. ARe you saying that the Cold War should not
>> have been waged? Are you saying that Europe should have
>> abandoned NATO and allowed Berlin to fall? And that they
>> should have welcomed Stalin's troops with flowers?
>
>The only flowers I recall was when the East Germans knocked down the Berlin
>Wall. The only bit of Berlin to fall wrt the Cold War. I have a piece of it
here
>actually.
>
>The stupidity wrt Afghanistan was backing the Taliban ( oops they called
>themselves Mujahadeen 'freedom fighters back then - not Taliban terrorists ).
>
>
>> >> And everybody
>> >> seems to forget about southeast Asia, India and China.
>> >
>> >What Cold War there ? India ??? !!!
>>
>> India was classified as third world country.
>
>And what does that have to do with the Cold War ?

Are you joking? Let's back up. What is the characteristic
the makes a country to be classified as third world?

/BAH
From: jmfbahciv on
In article <MPG.1fe0b1cde390f9b6989db8(a)news.individual.net>,
krw <krw(a)att.bizzzz> wrote:
>In article <el6i2m$8qk_001(a)s867.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com>,
>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com says...
>> In article <9857e$45761fc1$4fe7071$17377(a)DIALUPUSA.NET>,
>> unsettled <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> wrote:
>> >Lloyd Parker wrote:
>> <snip>
>>
>> >>>>You can be cash poor after buying a house though
>> >>>>and finding all the things that urgently need doing to make it
>> >>>>habitable.
>> >
>> >>>sure. But you aren't poor and all your "rent" is going into
>> >>>your real estate pocket. I didn't buy a house until I was
>> >>>told my rent was going up. So I went out and bought a house
>> >>>where the monthly payments were less than my current rent.
>> >
>> >> I betr you saved up for a down payment though.
>> >
>> >It doesn't sound like she did.
>
>The down payment on my first house was in three digits. The total
>closing costs, including tax escrow, was less than $5k.
>>
>> I simply don't remember. All I remembeer is that were
>> a lot of checks moving back and forth over that table. :-)
>>
>> > It doesn't sound as though
>> >buying a house was in her plans.
>>
>> It wasn't. I only bought it because the rent was cheaper.
>> I was more interested in getting my work done.
>
>We did the same calculation. The apartment we were living in was
>going condo. The red-herring price for our unit was $65K, plus
>$250/mo. commons fees. We bought our house for $60K. Even at a
>14.5% interest rate we broke even on the rent (with normal
>increases) within a year.

I bought just before the intersest rates went insane.

> A couple of years later we refinanced
>down to 10% then to 8%, saving a *lot* of money.

I also made sure that I had a loan that could be paid off early
without penalty.

>>
>> > I can say for a fact I didn't.
>> >I got into my first house ($50K) with $1K of my own. Let's
>> >just say that the seller and the realtor were both very
>> >motivated.
>>
>> I was very used to moving every semester from being in college.
>> I had no "settling down" genes like the rest of my family.
>> I still don't have curtains up on the windows :-). I've
>> just recently started "decorating" the inside of the house.
>
>It must be exciting in your neighborhood. ;-)

They can't see the inside. I'm painting everything shiny white
so I can see again. I'm almost to the point where I can put
up JMF's blowup picture of the KI with a VT05 running SYSDPY
in my junk room. But first, I have to wait until the dead body stops
stinking.

>
>I'm "redecorating" the entire house too, in preparation to split.

I don't know how you can manage that. I suspect whoever gets my
house will just raze it and build something that isn't holey.
Fieldstone foundations suck.

/BAH
From: jmfbahciv on
In article <4576E01A.DC9181AE(a)hotmail.com>,
Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote:
>
>> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >vjp2.at(a)at.BioStrategist.dot.dot.com wrote:
>> >
>> >> Zbigniew Brzezinski, a former U.S. national security adviser.. on
>> >> "Political Capital with Al Hunt," to air on Bloomberg Television..
Asked
>> >> whether the U.S. should have to accept the reality of the Iranians
>> >> obtaining
>> >> nuclear weapons, he said, "I'm not entirely convinced they are really
>> >> seeking
>> >> them." The Iranian leadership is "seeking a comprehensive nuclear
program"
>> >> that would put the country in a position to produce nuclear weapons,
>> >> Brzezinski said. [jmathewson(a)bloomberg.net November 24, 2006]
>> >
>> >I suspect that's quite an accurate analysis.
>>
>> You are swallowing Democrat sound bites again.
>
>Hardly.
>
>I came to that conclusion some considerable time ago based on a whole stack
of
>things. In any case I pay next to no attention to what politicians have to
say on
>the matter, whichever their persuasion and certainly don't give much
credibility
>to purely US politics in that respect.

But your BBC news reports our politicians' sound bites as news.
You are basing your decisions on political slickerhood.


>
>
>
>> For some strange
>> reason, Carter is rearing his ugly head and trying to swing
>> towards ceding to Islam.
>
>No he isn't !
>
>How about a cite here ?

Sigh! He's hawking another book. So far, all of his book selling
interviews promote the same opinion that extremists will be
willing to talk and compromise.
>
>
>> I don't understand this one. The more
>> I read about his administration, the more convinced I get that
>> I should have been petrified.
>
>You're easily petrified it seems.
>
>Having thought quite long about these issues, I've concluded that much US
reaction
>is based on fear of the unknown or unfamiliar actually and the typical US
reaction
>is to try to stamp it out as a result.

So there is no place for mess prevention?

/BAH
From: jmfbahciv on
In article <el6q75$tev$1(a)blue.rahul.net>,
kensmith(a)green.rahul.net (Ken Smith) wrote:
>In article <cfe5c$4575a308$4fe71d5$13749(a)DIALUPUSA.NET>,
>unsettled <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> wrote:

<snip>

>>I give you "feminine instinct" to ponder.
>
>No thanks. That and Quantum Physics at the same time may make my head
>explode.

Oh! That would explain why the theory of everythings posted
here never explain men.


<snip>

>Your "sane" assumes that the data going into the logic are the facts as
>you believe them to be. If you believed that banging on a drum made it
>rain and that you needed rain to make your corn grow, you would logically
>bang on a drum. To someone without that idea, a man walking around
>outside banging a drum, may look insane.

The banging of the drum gives people something to do while
waiting for the rain.

<snip>

/BAH