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From: T Wake on 6 Dec 2006 12:53 "Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message news:45762B3E.87E7AC69(a)hotmail.com... > > > unsettled wrote: > >> T Wake wrote: >> > "Jonathan Kirwan" <jkirwan(a)easystreet.com> wrote in message >> >> > Another problem of conscription is you force the undesirables into the >> > military (right wing extremists, left wing extremists, religiously >> > intolerant bigots etc) and even provide them with military training. >> >> The usual military training teaches people certain skills. >> Don't worry, generally speaking leadership is not one of >> those. > > Except when it is - as in officer training. The US military, like our own, teach it at many levels - not just officers.
From: T Wake on 6 Dec 2006 12:57 <jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message news:el6fur$8qk_004(a)s867.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com... > In article <el43t6$83n$6(a)leto.cc.emory.edu>, > lparker(a)emory.edu (Lloyd Parker) wrote: >>In article <el3pl3$8qk_006(a)s881.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com>, >> jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >>>In article <el27qb$6qf$4(a)leto.cc.emory.edu>, >>> lparker(a)emory.edu (Lloyd Parker) wrote: >>>>In article <el13vm$8qk_001(a)s787.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com>, >>>> jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >>>>>In article <ekv27j$l5r$3(a)blue.rahul.net>, >>>>> kensmith(a)green.rahul.net (Ken Smith) wrote: >>> >>><snip> >>> >>>>>You really should do all that; she's now doing the preliminary >>>>>running for 2008 Presidency. The Liberals in this state want >>>>>her for President so that Bill can take over again. >>>> >>>>Yeah, we long for those days of peace >>> >>>YOu have a very odd definition of peace. >>> >> >>Let's see, no 3000 killed in an attack in the US, no 3000 killed occupying >>a >>foreign land... > > The World Trade Center was bombed. Yugoslavia blew up. Somalia > was a mess. Wasn't there a mess in some African country where > one tribe killed millions of another tribe? And, oh yes there > is the treaty with North Korea which gave them money and goods > in return for a verbal promise not to make atomic weapons. > Then there were the years where zipper problems replaced normal > govnernment work...all because some guy didn't say, "yup, ah > fucked 'er." > > Right. The world was at peace. > Amazing lack of a grasp on world politics and recent world history. Stick to re-writing what Alexander did.
From: T Wake on 6 Dec 2006 13:03 <jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message news:el6p44$8ss_009(a)s815.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com... > In article <el6kn9$v36$5(a)leto.cc.emory.edu>, > lparker(a)emory.edu (Lloyd Parker) wrote: >>In article <el6fur$8qk_004(a)s867.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com>, >> jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >>>In article <el43t6$83n$6(a)leto.cc.emory.edu>, >>> lparker(a)emory.edu (Lloyd Parker) wrote: >>>>In article <el3pl3$8qk_006(a)s881.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com>, >>>> jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >>>>>In article <el27qb$6qf$4(a)leto.cc.emory.edu>, >>>>> lparker(a)emory.edu (Lloyd Parker) wrote: >>>>>>In article <el13vm$8qk_001(a)s787.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com>, >>>>>> jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >>>>>>>In article <ekv27j$l5r$3(a)blue.rahul.net>, >>>>>>> kensmith(a)green.rahul.net (Ken Smith) wrote: >>>>> >>>>><snip> >>>>> >>>>>>>You really should do all that; she's now doing the preliminary >>>>>>>running for 2008 Presidency. The Liberals in this state want >>>>>>>her for President so that Bill can take over again. >>>>>> >>>>>>Yeah, we long for those days of peace >>>>> >>>>>YOu have a very odd definition of peace. >>>>> >>>> >>>>Let's see, no 3000 killed in an attack in the US, no 3000 killed >>>>occupying > a >>>>foreign land... >>> >>>The World Trade Center was bombed. >> >>And the people responsible arrested and convicted and are in prison. > > And they are busily recruiting new members. Madness.
From: T Wake on 6 Dec 2006 13:08 <jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message news:el6iat$8qk_003(a)s867.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com... > In article <4576CCA8.DC3D47DC(a)hotmail.com>, > Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >> >> >>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >> >>> lparker(a)emory.edu (Lloyd Parker) wrote: >>> > >>> >Ever hear of the "peace dividend"? We weren't fighting the cold war > anymore. >>> >>> And you swallowed the sound byte hook, line, and sinker. >> >>That's sound bite btw. I'm amused how it's been corrupted so quickly. > > It is "byte" if all you do is rely on Google for your facts. > >> >> >>> The cold war didn't just stop. >> >>Well actually, yes it did. Aside from N Korea I suppose. > > Afghanistan and the Taliban was caused by cold war skirmishes. Correct but not completely true. Afghanistan has been a "problem" since long before the cold war. The Taliban were a "Cold War" invention that went wrong though. > Somalia is a cold war side effect. Really? Can you elaborate? > Egypt was one. Iran > seems to be still playing with Cold War rules. Really? Again, can you elaborate. > And everybody > seems to forget about southeast Asia, India and China. No, I don't think people have forgotten about them. India is not a "cold war" left over. The trouble between India and Pakistan is pretty much unrelated to cold war politics and manoeuvring. I am fairly sure the last US major operation in south east Asia ended quite a few years before the Cold War ended - there may still be US troops fighting the Vietcong but I doubt it. China? Odd one given that the US is courting better relationships with the nation. Even though they were communists and enemies of the 1950's US (where you seem to live), they were never really "onside" with the USSR.
From: T Wake on 6 Dec 2006 13:10
<jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message news:el6pbm$8ss_010(a)s815.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com... > In article <4576D38A.C5A971E(a)hotmail.com>, > Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >> >> >>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >> >>> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >>> >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >>> >> lparker(a)emory.edu (Lloyd Parker) wrote: >>> >> > >>> >> >Ever hear of the "peace dividend"? We weren't fighting the cold war >>> >> >anymore. >>> >> >>> >> And you swallowed the sound byte hook, line, and sinker. >>> > >>> >That's sound bite btw. I'm amused how it's been corrupted so quickly. >>> >>> It is "byte" if all you do is rely on Google for your facts. >> >>So you do have web access ? That's not what Google tells me ! >> >>http://www.google.com/search?rls=en&q=sound+bite >>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soundbite >> >> >>> >> The cold war didn't just stop. >>> > >>> >Well actually, yes it did. Aside from N Korea I suppose. >>> >>> Afghanistan and the Taliban was caused by cold war skirmishes. >> >>It was certainly caused by Cold War stupidity ! > > Oh, I see. ARe you saying that the Cold War should not > have been waged? Amazing use of a strawman. What in Eeyore's post said the Cold War should _not_ have been waged? Are you saying that when the west "created" the Taliban it was not a stupid act? > Are you saying that Europe should have > abandoned NATO and allowed Berlin to fall? And that they > should have welcomed Stalin's troops with flowers? Strawman. >>> And everybody >>> seems to forget about southeast Asia, India and China. >> >>What Cold War there ? India ??? !!! > > India was classified as third world country. So what? So is the Cote d'Ivoire are you saying that the cold war was fought there? |