From: Eeyore on 7 Dec 2006 16:44 jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > In article <45781F10.23D5E2D3(a)hotmail.com>, > Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > > > >> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > >> > > >> >The stupidity wrt Afghanistan was backing the Taliban ( oops they called > >> >themselves Mujahadeen 'freedom fighters back then - not Taliban terrorists > ). > >> > > >> >> >> And everybody > >> >> >> seems to forget about southeast Asia, India and China. > >> >> > > >> >> >What Cold War there ? India ??? !!! > >> >> > >> >> India was classified as third world country. > >> > > >> >And what does that have to do with the Cold War ? > >> > >> Are you joking? Let's back up. What is the characteristic > >> the makes a country to be classified as third world? > > > >Mainly lack of 'development'. > > Then the USSR would be third world. Hardly ! They have masses of industry. The USSR is really quite advanced. Making their own jet aircraft, nuclear power reactors and the like is hardly a third world activity. Once again you seem to have some strange flawed ancient story-book idea of how the world is. > From the books I've read about the United Nations, the third > world were those countries who had not yet "decided" between > Western democratic governing and some flavor of communist > governing. Utter nonsense. > The Cold War was all about which "side" these > countries would choose. Which is a completely different matter. Graham
From: Eeyore on 7 Dec 2006 16:45 jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > >> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > >> > > >> >If any Muslims over here try it on, they'll discover what a swift kick to > >> >the nuts does ! > >> > >> With the methods available today, you will never see your killer. > > > >There's no need to be as silly as I was being ! > > I wish I could be silly. Did you also once think there really were 'Reds under the bed' too ? Graham
From: Eeyore on 7 Dec 2006 16:48 jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > >T Wake wrote: > >> <jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message > >> > Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > >> >> > >> >>If any Muslims over here try it on, they'll discover what a swift kick to > >> >>the nuts does ! > >> > > >> > With the methods available today, you will never see your killer. > >> > >> If they kill Eeyore they have failed. Killing people doesn't convert them, > >> it just kills them. > >> > >> The fear you monger is more likely to cause a conversion. > > > >It's actually more likely to cause a backlash in fact ! > > It doesn't matter if you convert What part of the wrod backlash didn't you understand ? There isn't going to be any converting here silly ! > they intend to kill you anyway. My 'neighbours' do ? We have laws to deal with that. > You live a Western life-style. You use Western > technology. You will do anything to stay alive. These > people kill their own...or haven't you been noticing. They don't do that here. We also have laws relating to threats of violence btw. Graham
From: Eeyore on 7 Dec 2006 16:51 jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > >> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > >> >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > >> > >> But your BBC news reports our politicians' sound bites as news. > >> You are basing your decisions on political slickerhood. > > > >Who said I was relying exclusively on the BBC ? > > Because I've traced it. Traced what ? I read multiple sources of info indeed including the BBC but also American and Arab sources for example, even Russian sometimes ! I was just reading the Times of India in fact. You can soon weed out national bias that way. > The way the Democrats tested reactions > of the US was to go to Europe and give a speech that contained > the ideas they wanted a reaction test. BBC would report on > the speech. The American news media would report on what > the BBC reported minus the fact that it came from some guy's > speech. The politician would then watch to see how the > voters of the US received it. What you saw a the Democrat > platform had been vetted through Europe this way. You're barking up the wrong tree. Graham
From: Eeyore on 7 Dec 2006 17:09
jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > > > >> >> For some strange > >> >> reason, Carter is rearing his ugly head and trying to swing > >> >> towards ceding to Islam. > >> > > >> >No he isn't ! > >> > > >> >How about a cite here ? > >> > >> Sigh! He's hawking another book. So far, all of his book selling > >> interviews promote the same opinion that extremists will be > >> willing to talk and compromise. > > > >All the evidence to date shows that this is what eventually happens. > > What?! You are very deluded. There is no evidence. Of coursde there is. Even Osama bin Laden said he would cease his attacks on the West if our military forces left Islamic lands ffs. > > Was peace restored in N Ireland by 'defeating' the IRA ? > > There was no stomach to defeat the IRA. That's not what I asked. As eveer you seem incapable of giving a straight answer and offe rhetoric instead. You should perhaps be a politician. > That conflict lasted because there was no intent to defeat the IRA. There was simply no way to defeat the IRA without perhaps eliminating most of the Catholic population of N. Ireland and very likely some of the population of the Republic too. Is that what we should have done ? > >> >Having thought quite long about these issues, I've concluded that much US > >> >reaction is based on fear of the unknown or unfamiliar actually and the > >> >typical US reaction is to try to stamp it out as a result. > >> > >> So there is no place for mess prevention? > > > >If it's done *intelligently*. > > What is an intellgent mess prevention in this situation? Noy going into 'the wrong country' would help ! > >Recent US action has been purely mess *generation*. Very > >costly mess generation too in every conceivable respect. > > Our Democrats cannot leave well enough alone. Around here > they are still in Bush-bashing mode. Who can blame them. He's probably the worst US President in modern times. > Now they say Bush is wrong > because he hasn't done what the commission has recommended > and, since he hasn't commented on the report (which is a lie), > it is clear to these Democrats that Bush will do nothing > and nothing will get done. Eh ? > IOW, our lovely Democrats no longer expect instantaneous > gratification but gratification before they feel a need. > They are completely insane. I finally switched to the > Art Bell show to get a dose of sanity. I've been doing > that a lot over the last year. This doesn't bode well. May I recommend a strong dose of reality actually ? Graham |