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From: John Fields on 7 Dec 2006 23:18 On Thu, 7 Dec 2006 22:48:48 -0000, "T Wake" <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote: > >"Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message >news:45788CD6.7DED94C5(a)hotmail.com... >> >> >> jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >> >>> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >>> >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >>> >> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >>> >> >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >>> >> >>> >> But your BBC news reports our politicians' sound bites as news. >>> >> You are basing your decisions on political slickerhood. >>> > >>> >Who said I was relying exclusively on the BBC ? >>> >>> Because I've traced it. >> >> Traced what ? I read multiple sources of info indeed including the BBC but >> also >> American and Arab sources for example, even Russian sometimes ! I was just >> reading the Times of India in fact. You can soon weed out national bias >> that way. --- Bullshit. all you can do is read what others' opinions are and then decide whether they conform to what you consider the "right way" for the US to act to be. In the first place, you need to come to the realization that what you think doesn't matter and hasn't mattered since the first time you were overwhelmed and had to ask us for help to survive. And then, after the second time, surely you must realize that, in effect, we own you. In the case of America's being right and doing the right thing, however, no amount of information attesting to that being true would satisfy you since you've already made up your mind that we're unequivocally wrong, no matter which road we decide to tread. On the other side of it, I don't see where you had any problems with questions of ethics when you were trying to gobble up the globe and arrogantly declared that "The sun never sets on the British Empire". -- JF
From: jmfbahciv on 8 Dec 2006 07:18 In article <ddudnfxoXvqG1OXYRVnysQ(a)pipex.net>, "T Wake" <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote: > >"Lloyd Parker" <lparker(a)emory.edu> wrote in message >news:el991p$qc5$1(a)leto.cc.emory.edu... >> In article <el6i3f$8qk_002(a)s867.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com>, >> jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > ><snip for brevity> > >>>So? That's how you do this buying your house biz if you >>>are going to take out a loan. You can also take out a >>>loan that includes the down payment. Is it now a sin >>>to save for the down payment? >>> >>>/BAH >> >> No, but it means young people have to put off buying a house while they >> do. > >Which maintains the circle. While the young people are trying to save, they >have to pay rent. While they try to save house prices go up, rent goes and >their savings become a lower percentage of the deposit. If you don't want to pay rent, then don't rent. One of my brothers started out with a trailer. <snip> /BAH
From: jmfbahciv on 8 Dec 2006 07:19 In article <el9942$qc5$2(a)leto.cc.emory.edu>, lparker(a)emory.edu (Lloyd Parker) wrote: >In article <el6iat$8qk_003(a)s867.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com>, > jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >>In article <4576CCA8.DC3D47DC(a)hotmail.com>, >> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> >>>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >>> >>>> lparker(a)emory.edu (Lloyd Parker) wrote: >>>> > >>>> >Ever hear of the "peace dividend"? We weren't fighting the cold war >>anymore. >>>> >>>> And you swallowed the sound byte hook, line, and sinker. >>> >>>That's sound bite btw. I'm amused how it's been corrupted so quickly. >> >>It is "byte" if all you do is rely on Google for your facts. >> >>> >>> >>>> The cold war didn't just stop. >>> >>>Well actually, yes it did. Aside from N Korea I suppose. >> >>Afghanistan and the Taliban was caused by cold war skirmishes. > >By our foolish arming of the rebels there. > >>Somalia is a cold war side effect. > >Are we spending billions on our military to deter Somalia? We did. > >>Egypt was one. Iran >>seems to be still playing with Cold War rules. And everybody >>seems to forget about southeast Asia, India and China. >> > >Oh yes, we've got to deter a first-strike by India. It appears you haven't been keeping on who has nuclear weapons and who is working on getting them in that area. /BAH
From: jmfbahciv on 8 Dec 2006 07:26 In article <el9aa4$qc5$9(a)leto.cc.emory.edu>, lparker(a)emory.edu (Lloyd Parker) wrote: >In article <MPG.1fe0b29676a39b5b989db9(a)news.individual.net>, > krw <krw(a)att.bizzzz> wrote: >>In article <el6kid$v36$4(a)leto.cc.emory.edu>, lparker(a)emory.edu >>says... >>> In article <el6el5$8qk_001(a)s867.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com>, >>> jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >>> >In article <el43p1$83n$4(a)leto.cc.emory.edu>, >>> > lparker(a)emory.edu (Lloyd Parker) wrote: >>> >>In article <el3o53$8qk_001(a)s881.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com>, >>> >> jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >>> >>>In article <45742DA0.41C26436(a)hotmail.com>, >>> >>> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >>> >>>> >>> >>>>> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>>> >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >>> >>>>> >> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>>> >> >Ken Smith wrote: >>> >>>>> >> > >>> >>>>> >> >> The so called "war on terror" has cost the US a great deal >without >>> >>>>> >> >> really yelding anything much as a result. >>> >>>>> >> > >>> >>>>> >> >You're kidding. >>> >>>>> >> > >>> >>>>> >> >It's yielded greater instability in the word and more hatred of >the >>> >>USA >>> >>>( >>> >>>>> >> >entirely justified this time ). >>> >>>>> >> > >>> >>>>> >> >What sheer brilliance. >>> >>>>> >> >>> >>>>> >> You both have been blind. >>> >>>>> > >>> >>>>> >Come on then. Don't be shy. What's your opinion on the matter ? >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> The sound bite "war on xxxx" was misused so often that, when >>> >>>>> the real thing is happening, nobody pays attention. The fable >>> >>>>> about the boy crying wolf has become reality. >>> >>>> >>> >>>>That wasn't quite what I meant but I can't really disgree with that >>> >>>statement. >>> >>>> >>> >>>>To return to the original question. Do you feel this so-called 'war on >>> >>>terror' >>> >>>>has been useful or counter-productive ? >>> >>> >>> >>>It has been useful. Libya decided it would give up making >>> >>>atom bombs in return for trade. Saudis are slowly emancipating >>> >>>their women. >>> >> >>> >>Let's see, they can't drive, they can't go outdoors unless escorted by >their >>> >>husband or a male relative, they get punished for adultery and the man >>> >>doesn't, their testimony in court is legally worth less than that of a >>> man... >>> >> >>> >>If that's emancipation, I'd hate to see what you consider inequality! >>> > >>> >They are starting to get their driver's license. It will take >>> >a half generation or so for the mindset to change. Wasting >>> >50% of their resources by keeping them under cover is stupid. >>> >This can only happen in a middle class mindset. I'm starting >>> >to think about how Islam started out as middle-class and rather >>> >ignored the working part. >>> > >>> > >>> >> >>> >>>Somalia is trying to sort itself out and seems >>> >>>to be tottering towards trade rather than isolation. >>> >> >>> >>Just a nasty little civil war going on. >>> > >>> >You should watch what they're fighting about. It's about >>> >their lifestyle. Every Muslim nation is going to go through >>> >similar internal discussions. One the methods used to avoid >>> >dealing with thorny issues is to point outside the borders >>> >and say, "it's their fault". >>> >> >>> >>>A lot of Americans, who now have to remain mute, have had lessons >>> >>>on what happens when politics and policies are left to >>> >>>people who undermine the Constitution. These people have also >>> >>>reexamined their priorities and threw the old ones out and >>> >>>have a new list. >>> >>> >>> >>>Slowly, albeit too slowly, the public health departments are >>> >>>back to doing their jobs and have started thinking about >>> >>>how to manage a pandemic. >>> >> >>> >>Maybe if the same type of people who were appointed to head FEMA hadn't >been >>> >>appointed here... >>> > >>> >You keep missing the legal point that FEMA cannot do anything until >>> >it is asked to come in and help by the governor of the state. >>> > >>> >>> You right-wingers keep saying this, and it's no more true than any other of >>> your mantras. >> >>That is correct. It is no more (or less) true of any other of our >>arguments. The fact is that the feds *must* be asked for help (an >>emergency declared). > >And the president can declare an emergency. What are you going to do when a president abuses that power by declaring an emergency which puts the country into a permanent state of a dictatorship? Be very careful of what you wish for. You do seem to want the Constitution to be suspended as long as everyone else, but you, pays for it. /BAH
From: jmfbahciv on 8 Dec 2006 07:30
In article <el9aj0$qc5$11(a)leto.cc.emory.edu>, lparker(a)emory.edu (Lloyd Parker) wrote: >In article <el91mu$8ss_002(a)s856.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com>, > jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > >>Are you joking? Let's back up. What is the characteristic >>the makes a country to be classified as third world? >> >>/BAH > >Originally, that it wasn't aligned with the US or USSR. OK. At least we have a similar definition. > Then it became more >of a descriptor of the level of development, industrialization, etc. When did that happen? The decade will be close enough. /BAH |