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From: jmfbahciv on 8 Dec 2006 07:32 In article <45788B20.1B96846(a)hotmail.com>, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > >> In article <45781F10.23D5E2D3(a)hotmail.com>, >> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >> >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >> > >> >> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >> >> > >> >> >The stupidity wrt Afghanistan was backing the Taliban ( oops they called >> >> >themselves Mujahadeen 'freedom fighters back then - not Taliban terrorists >> ). >> >> > >> >> >> >> And everybody >> >> >> >> seems to forget about southeast Asia, India and China. >> >> >> > >> >> >> >What Cold War there ? India ??? !!! >> >> >> >> >> >> India was classified as third world country. >> >> > >> >> >And what does that have to do with the Cold War ? >> >> >> >> Are you joking? Let's back up. What is the characteristic >> >> the makes a country to be classified as third world? >> > >> >Mainly lack of 'development'. >> >> Then the USSR would be third world. > >Hardly ! They have masses of industry. > >The USSR is really quite advanced. Making their own jet aircraft, nuclear power >reactors and the like is hardly a third world activity. > >Once again you seem to have some strange flawed ancient story-book idea of how the >world is. > > >> From the books I've read about the United Nations, the third >> world were those countries who had not yet "decided" between >> Western democratic governing and some flavor of communist >> governing. > >Utter nonsense. That's what I thought. You aren't using the same definition that I am. > > >> The Cold War was all about which "side" these >> countries would choose. > >Which is a completely different matter. How so? If you start talking about the third world, I figure you are talking about those who hadn't chosen sides. /BAH
From: jmfbahciv on 8 Dec 2006 07:43 In article <MPG.1fe1fd93a34fa40e989dba(a)news.individual.net>, krw <krw(a)att.bizzzz> wrote: >In article <el91vv$8ss_003(a)s856.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com>, >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com says... >> In article <MPG.1fe0b1cde390f9b6989db8(a)news.individual.net>, >> krw <krw(a)att.bizzzz> wrote: >> >In article <el6i2m$8qk_001(a)s867.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com>, >> >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com says... >> >> In article <9857e$45761fc1$4fe7071$17377(a)DIALUPUSA.NET>, >> >> unsettled <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> wrote: >> >> >Lloyd Parker wrote: >> >> <snip> >> >> >> >> >>>>You can be cash poor after buying a house though >> >> >>>>and finding all the things that urgently need doing to make it >> >> >>>>habitable. >> >> > >> >> >>>sure. But you aren't poor and all your "rent" is going into >> >> >>>your real estate pocket. I didn't buy a house until I was >> >> >>>told my rent was going up. So I went out and bought a house >> >> >>>where the monthly payments were less than my current rent. >> >> > >> >> >> I betr you saved up for a down payment though. >> >> > >> >> >It doesn't sound like she did. >> > >> >The down payment on my first house was in three digits. The total >> >closing costs, including tax escrow, was less than $5k. >> >> >> >> I simply don't remember. All I remembeer is that were >> >> a lot of checks moving back and forth over that table. :-) >> >> >> >> > It doesn't sound as though >> >> >buying a house was in her plans. >> >> >> >> It wasn't. I only bought it because the rent was cheaper. >> >> I was more interested in getting my work done. >> > >> >We did the same calculation. The apartment we were living in was >> >going condo. The red-herring price for our unit was $65K, plus >> >$250/mo. commons fees. We bought our house for $60K. Even at a >> >14.5% interest rate we broke even on the rent (with normal >> >increases) within a year. >> >> I bought just before the intersest rates went insane. >> >> > A couple of years later we refinanced >> >down to 10% then to 8%, saving a *lot* of money. >> >> I also made sure that I had a loan that could be paid off early >> without penalty. > >It was 18% when we first started looking (June '82). It came down >to 14.5% in September '82. Ugh. I bought in 1977. > >> >> > I can say for a fact I didn't. >> >> >I got into my first house ($50K) with $1K of my own. Let's >> >> >just say that the seller and the realtor were both very >> >> >motivated. >> >> >> >> I was very used to moving every semester from being in college. >> >> I had no "settling down" genes like the rest of my family. >> >> I still don't have curtains up on the windows :-). I've >> >> just recently started "decorating" the inside of the house. >> > >> >It must be exciting in your neighborhood. ;-) >> >> They can't see the inside. I'm painting everything shiny white >> so I can see again. I'm almost to the point where I can put >> up JMF's blowup picture of the KI with a VT05 running SYSDPY >> in my junk room. But first, I have to wait until the dead body stops >> stinking. > >Dead body? Yea. For some strange reason, I get a picture in my head of large body. But it has to be a mouse. One of these days, I'm going to figure out how the guy who lived here thought. He built a closet but put a false floor in it along one wall of the room. Underneath, there is probably a mouse retirement center that had been in business over the years the guy lived here. I don't want to tear it apart. At the moment, I'm using moth ball strewn generously. I balls strewn in the basement, and they appear to have been removed. Pesky rodents. If it isn't the User Device From Hell, it's the mobile flavor. I've been spend some time these last few weeks trying to figure out how I'm able to estimate the size of the body from just the smell. Intensity? > >> >I'm "redecorating" the entire house too, in preparation to split. >> >> I don't know how you can manage that. I suspect whoever gets my >> house will just raze it and build something that isn't holey. > >I tore the carpet up from the second bedroom yesterday. Today is >the upstairs hallway and stairs. Then I have some repairs to do to >the railings. Then stain, polyurethane, and paint the walls. The >master bedroom carpet gets torn out next week and then new >carpeting in the upstairs. Two weeks later the entire downstairs >gets recarpeted (gotta tear all that out and repaint inbetween). Why are you carpeting? I never understood that because I assume that the first thing the new female does is redecorate. > >> Fieldstone foundations suck. > >I'd never have one. Mine is 8" concrete. Even then I need to run a >dehumidifier all summer. The problem with fieldstone is that the mortar doesn't last. /BAH
From: jmfbahciv on 8 Dec 2006 07:48 In article <45788CD6.7DED94C5(a)hotmail.com>, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > >> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >> >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >> >> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >> >> >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >> >> >> >> But your BBC news reports our politicians' sound bites as news. >> >> You are basing your decisions on political slickerhood. >> > >> >Who said I was relying exclusively on the BBC ? >> >> Because I've traced it. > >Traced what ? I read multiple sources of info indeed including the BBC but also >American and Arab sources for example, even Russian sometimes ! I was just >reading the Times of India in fact. You can soon weed out national bias that way. I used to use that approach. But it's not as reliable anymore because news items usually have a one-person source and every news outlet picks it up. Your approach only works if competing news agencies send people they employ. Nowadays, the only spots that get covered by competing media are the frenzy of the week. > > > >> The way the Democrats tested reactions >> of the US was to go to Europe and give a speech that contained >> the ideas they wanted a reaction test. BBC would report on >> the speech. The American news media would report on what >> the BBC reported minus the fact that it came from some guy's >> speech. The politician would then watch to see how the >> voters of the US received it. What you saw a the Democrat >> platform had been vetted through Europe this way. > >You're barking up the wrong tree. The US is now starting its 2008 Presidential campaign. Pay attention to the flow of "news" items. Remember where it was started and who started it. What you usual hear, see, or read is a report and not the original start of that item. /BAH
From: jmfbahciv on 8 Dec 2006 08:08 In article <el9bsl$bl2$2(a)blue.rahul.net>, kensmith(a)green.rahul.net (Ken Smith) wrote: >In article <el92jj$8qk_001(a)s856.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com>, > <jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote: >>In article <el6q75$tev$1(a)blue.rahul.net>, >> kensmith(a)green.rahul.net (Ken Smith) wrote: >>>In article <cfe5c$4575a308$4fe71d5$13749(a)DIALUPUSA.NET>, >>>unsettled <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> wrote: >> >><snip> >> >>>>I give you "feminine instinct" to ponder. >>> >>>No thanks. That and Quantum Physics at the same time may make my head >>>explode. >> >>Oh! That would explain why the theory of everythings posted >>here never explain men. > >Men are easy to explain. "Show up naked with beer" <GRIN> I want to be able to steer them in a different direction. /BAH
From: Lloyd Parker on 8 Dec 2006 03:27
In article <elblm9$8ss_005(a)s848.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com>, jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >In article <el9aa4$qc5$9(a)leto.cc.emory.edu>, > lparker(a)emory.edu (Lloyd Parker) wrote: >>In article <MPG.1fe0b29676a39b5b989db9(a)news.individual.net>, >> krw <krw(a)att.bizzzz> wrote: >>>In article <el6kid$v36$4(a)leto.cc.emory.edu>, lparker(a)emory.edu >>>says... >>>> In article <el6el5$8qk_001(a)s867.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com>, >>>> jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >>>> >In article <el43p1$83n$4(a)leto.cc.emory.edu>, >>>> > lparker(a)emory.edu (Lloyd Parker) wrote: >>>> >>In article <el3o53$8qk_001(a)s881.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com>, >>>> >> jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >>>> >>>In article <45742DA0.41C26436(a)hotmail.com>, >>>> >>> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >>>> >>>>> >> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> >> >Ken Smith wrote: >>>> >>>>> >> > >>>> >>>>> >> >> The so called "war on terror" has cost the US a great deal >>without >>>> >>>>> >> >> really yelding anything much as a result. >>>> >>>>> >> > >>>> >>>>> >> >You're kidding. >>>> >>>>> >> > >>>> >>>>> >> >It's yielded greater instability in the word and more hatred of >>the >>>> >>USA >>>> >>>( >>>> >>>>> >> >entirely justified this time ). >>>> >>>>> >> > >>>> >>>>> >> >What sheer brilliance. >>>> >>>>> >> >>>> >>>>> >> You both have been blind. >>>> >>>>> > >>>> >>>>> >Come on then. Don't be shy. What's your opinion on the matter ? >>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>>> The sound bite "war on xxxx" was misused so often that, when >>>> >>>>> the real thing is happening, nobody pays attention. The fable >>>> >>>>> about the boy crying wolf has become reality. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>That wasn't quite what I meant but I can't really disgree with that >>>> >>>statement. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>To return to the original question. Do you feel this so-called 'war on >>>> >>>terror' >>>> >>>>has been useful or counter-productive ? >>>> >>> >>>> >>>It has been useful. Libya decided it would give up making >>>> >>>atom bombs in return for trade. Saudis are slowly emancipating >>>> >>>their women. >>>> >> >>>> >>Let's see, they can't drive, they can't go outdoors unless escorted by >>their >>>> >>husband or a male relative, they get punished for adultery and the man >>>> >>doesn't, their testimony in court is legally worth less than that of a >>>> man... >>>> >> >>>> >>If that's emancipation, I'd hate to see what you consider inequality! >>>> > >>>> >They are starting to get their driver's license. It will take >>>> >a half generation or so for the mindset to change. Wasting >>>> >50% of their resources by keeping them under cover is stupid. >>>> >This can only happen in a middle class mindset. I'm starting >>>> >to think about how Islam started out as middle-class and rather >>>> >ignored the working part. >>>> > >>>> > >>>> >> >>>> >>>Somalia is trying to sort itself out and seems >>>> >>>to be tottering towards trade rather than isolation. >>>> >> >>>> >>Just a nasty little civil war going on. >>>> > >>>> >You should watch what they're fighting about. It's about >>>> >their lifestyle. Every Muslim nation is going to go through >>>> >similar internal discussions. One the methods used to avoid >>>> >dealing with thorny issues is to point outside the borders >>>> >and say, "it's their fault". >>>> >> >>>> >>>A lot of Americans, who now have to remain mute, have had lessons >>>> >>>on what happens when politics and policies are left to >>>> >>>people who undermine the Constitution. These people have also >>>> >>>reexamined their priorities and threw the old ones out and >>>> >>>have a new list. >>>> >>> >>>> >>>Slowly, albeit too slowly, the public health departments are >>>> >>>back to doing their jobs and have started thinking about >>>> >>>how to manage a pandemic. >>>> >> >>>> >>Maybe if the same type of people who were appointed to head FEMA hadn't >>been >>>> >>appointed here... >>>> > >>>> >You keep missing the legal point that FEMA cannot do anything until >>>> >it is asked to come in and help by the governor of the state. >>>> > >>>> >>>> You right-wingers keep saying this, and it's no more true than any other >of >>>> your mantras. >>> >>>That is correct. It is no more (or less) true of any other of our >>>arguments. The fact is that the feds *must* be asked for help (an >>>emergency declared). >> >>And the president can declare an emergency. > >What are you going to do when a president abuses that power >by declaring an emergency which puts the country into a permanent >state of a dictatorship? Be very careful of what you wish for. >You do seem to want the Constitution to be suspended as long >as everyone else, but you, pays for it. > >/BAH Like The Republican Congress gave Bush the power to suspend habeas corpus? It's already here, but since it's a right-winger, you lap it up. |